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Are You More Blessed Than the Virgin Mary?
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| 12/15/2010
| Jonathan Parnell
Posted on 12/15/2010 5:09:09 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Mad Dawg
Absolutely beautiful!
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posted on
12/15/2010 8:56:19 PM PST
by
diamond6
(Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
To: Mad Dawg; diamond6
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:00:42 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: wmfights
Animals, dirt and feces have nothing to do with sin. Jesus was covered with sweat, dust and spittle during His sorrowful passion. He willingly subjected to it in His humility.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:01:05 PM PST
by
diamond6
(Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
To: wmfights
We see it everyday bowing down, kneeling, worshiping Mary. It is wrong. Mercy, where? I'm a Catholic, and attend daily mass several days a week, and I don't see it. Where do you (plural) see it everyday? On the internet? Do you (plural) look for it everyday, or do you (plural) have a favorite site to go check each day? Why?
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:02:29 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
To: Judith Anne
...a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful that the Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instant of her conception, was, by a unique grace and privilege of Almighty God in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, preserved exempt from all stain of original sin. Ineffabilis Deus
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:07:53 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Yep. My Lord God Almight can do anything. ;-D
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:11:50 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
To: Salvation; Mad Dawg; diamond6; Judith Anne; narses
JOHN 1 14 "The Word(CHRIST) became flesh and made his dwelling among us...............(Jesus Christ) FULL of GRACE and truth."
This shows Christ Full of Grace.
Now, What about Mary!
LUKE 1:28 And he came to her and said, "Hail full of grace, the Lord is with you!"
Yet this is before she has Christ in her womb. Before the Holy Spirit overshadowed her for conception of Christ which comes after in this verse.
LUKE 1 34 34 How will this be, Mary asked the angel, since I am a virgin? 35 The angel answered, The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will Overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:19:03 PM PST
by
johngrace
(God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
To: diamond6; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Yes there are many misinformed catholics but what matters is what the church teaches. If a catholic is in error, that does not represent what the church teaches. If there are misinformed Catholics, it's the church's responsibility. It hasn't done an adequate job of catechizing its adherents.
Not to mention that what the local Catholic church teaches is not what FRoman Catholics claim the RCC *really* teaches.
What the Catholic church really teaches doesn't always line up with what FRoman Catholics say its official doctrine is.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:21:06 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: metmom
THAT’S SHORE TRUE LAYERS DEEP!
Thx.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:28:13 PM PST
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: Salvation
THOROUGHLY WRONG.
BTW . . . Am still pondering an answer to your FREEPMAIL.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:28:57 PM PST
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: metmom
**What the Catholic church really teaches doesn’t always line up with what FRoman Catholics say its official doctrine is.**
metmom,
What is the basis for this experience. Have you experienced this personally? Where? When? How? Why? Exactly what did you experience?
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:29:38 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: metmom
It never lines up. No matter which way you try to make it match up, it just doesn’t. And yet it is rabidly defended. Like there is a source to go to to refresh oneself with the facts and come back stronger. There is no fact checker, no complete reference, nothing written in permanent ink. It’s been here for 2000 years, gave us all the information we would ever need to know about the Bible, holds the keys to the kingdom, has the power to retain or remit sins, can turn wafers and wine into flesh and blood. Yet no one knows exactly what the RCC believes for sure. No one knows exactly what they’ve sold their soul for.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:33:55 PM PST
by
smvoice
(Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
To: smvoice
No one knows exactly what theyve sold their soul for. Explain this, please?
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:35:40 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
To: Salvation; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
What is the basis for this experience. Have you experienced this personally? Where? When? How? Why? Exactly what did you experience? My experience, and the experience as stated by other former Catholics on this forum.
I know what the Catholics I grew up with and lived with and worked with believed. I've related it several times over the last several months and all I keep hearing is the knee jerk response of "That's not what the Catholic church *really* teaches", by which the person means is not technically correct Vatican approved doctrine. But it is, in reality, what the Catholic church does indeed teach else there wouldn't be so many Catholics with the exact same (alleged) errors about church doctrine.
If the errors were a matter of faulty individual interpretation, then they would be different errors, not all the same kind.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:38:50 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: metmom
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:42:35 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
To: RegulatorCountry
I'm always amazed by the Jekyll and Hyde reaction ol' Martin provokes amongst Roman Catholics in general, anyway. One day, it's spitting nails and calling him every name in the book, and the next he's nearing sainthood.It is pretty mind boggling, isn't it?
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:43:13 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Mad Dawg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
We beg you to accept our devotion to you and to your Son. Not just Jesus, but Mary also?
Why? Why should someone devote themselves to a dead person living in heaven who has no power to answer prayers? What's she capable of doing for them or you?
In service and love of that Truth, we commit our lives, our hearts, our minds, ourselves to you, oh calm, gentle, and sweet, oh Blessed mother.
Sounds like worship and idolatry to me-putting Mary on the same level as Jesus and committing your life to her.
God did say something about idols. And idols are not always most out of wood or stone.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:50:49 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: RnMomof7
What are you so adverse to accepting that if the Incarnation came about the way described in Matthew, Luke, and in a different way, John, that Mary's role was significantly different from that of Elizabeth or Sarah, that the Promise was quite different. Great as he was, John was just a prophet, who spoke the words that God put into his mouth. Jesus was/is the very Word of God. The Word made flesh. Mary is Theotokos. Nothing can gainsay that, except you deny the very idea of the Incarnation, as so many modern Christians do.
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:52:23 PM PST
by
RobbyS
(Pray with the suffering souls.)
To: metmom
**If the errors were a matter of faulty individual interpretation**
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:53:45 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: topcat54
** 3. All synods or councils, since the Apostles' times, whether general or particular, may err; and many have erred. Therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith, or practice; but to be used as a help in both. (Westminster Confession of Faith) " Don't believe them, believe US! We are smarter and wiser than they." Seriously, how would they know that?
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posted on
12/15/2010 9:57:54 PM PST
by
RobbyS
(Pray with the suffering souls.)
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