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To: Cyclops08

“Nowhere is there an example of people praying to the dead in the Bible. Zip. Nada. Nowhere!”
“Arise, Lazarus.”

-—WRONG! That was a Command, not a prayer.
Seriously. You’ll have to try harder than that.

You don’t know what a prayer is and you also don’t know your Bible. The word “pray” comes from the Latin word precari, which simply means to entreat or ask. A prayer is a form of communicating a request,, typically of a spiritual nature. Also, Jesus would never have commanded Lazurus, given their relationship. That would have been highly disrespectful.


823 posted on 12/06/2010 8:15:27 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood; Cyclops08; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ..

“You don’t know what a prayer is and you also don’t know your Bible. The word “pray” comes from the Latin word precari, which simply means to entreat or ask. A prayer is a form of communicating a request,, typically of a spiritual nature. Also, Jesus would never have commanded Lazurus, given their relationship. That would have been highly disrespectful.”

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The word for how Jesus spoke to Lazarus is not “precari” - “pray”, it’s “eipon” - “having said”

John 11:43
When he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out.”

http://biblos.com/john/11-43.htm

The word in the Greek is to command.

http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/2036.htm
answer, bid, bring word, command

A primary verb (used only in the definite past tense, the others being borrowed from ereo, rheo, and phemi); to speak or say (by word or writing) — answer, bid, bring word, call, command, grant, say (on), speak, tell. Compare lego.

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Jesus didn’t request Lazarus to come out. He didn’t pray to him to come out. He didn’t beg him, *Lazarus, would you please come out of that tomb.*

He commanded him in a loud voice - come forth.

Honestly, you need to work on your reading comprehension if you can’t tell the difference between a command and a request.

And that last bit about Jesus not telling Lazarus what to do because of it being disrespectful is pathetically laughable. They weren’t so namby-pamby gushy that people are today thinking that TELLING someone to do something is “disrespectful”.

That’s ludicrous. It reminds me of all these parents in the store begging their two year old to behave. *Johnny, that’s not nice. Please stop hitting your sister.*

Here’s a link to some grammar that explains what imperatives are.

http://www.englishlanguageguide.com/english/grammar/imperative.asp


827 posted on 12/06/2010 8:40:05 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kirkwood; Cyclops08; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ..

“You don’t know what a prayer is and you also don’t know your Bible. The word “pray” comes from the Latin word precari, which simply means to entreat or ask. A prayer is a form of communicating a request,, typically of a spiritual nature. Also, Jesus would never have commanded Lazurus, given their relationship. That would have been highly disrespectful.”

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IOW, Jesus did not pray to dead people when He commanded Lazarus to come forth.

What a joke. Jesus, God Himself come in the flesh, PRAYING to a mere man????

There is no end to the absurdities that Catholics come up with trying to justify their unscriptural doctrines. You just can’t make this stuff up.


829 posted on 12/06/2010 8:42:36 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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