[RnMomof7]

The Church teaching is that Christ's sacrifice is what won us our Salvation. Church teaching is that His sacrifice is super-sufficient for our salvation.

The teaching of your church is that Jesus was the only one that ever kept the law perfectly. That would make Him the only sinless person ever born

Mary was the tool, the ark for holding God. This ark had to be purified, pure, clean, filled with grace to be able to bear God.

The OT is all about Christ , not Mary.. The ark was a type of Christ, not Mary . To assign to man (or woman ) anything that is Gods alone is blasphemy

Just as the Ark of the First Covenant was so powerful that even priests who were uncleansed and men who aimed to prevent it from falling could get filled by one touch, so even more so the Ark of the second, greater, covenant had to be pure, filled utterly with grace.

What do you do with the fact that the ark was touched and carried by pagans without them dying? The death of Uzzah was because of his (and Davids) disobedience to Gods commands, not actually "touching" the ark.. catholics have so romanticized Mary that they have built all manner of false teaching about her as tradition

All for God, all by God -- Mary did NOT save herself, she needed salvation and got that from her God, her Son, her Savior. Jesus saved Mary, He was her savior. He saved her, protected her from sin.

Why would one think that was necessary?? Jesus came to walk in a sin filled world, to eat with sinners, and have sinners as his apostles.. If in deed mary was sinless than Christ did not come for her or save her.. because he says He did not come for the righteous..

The Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of mary are both false, non biblical doctrines.

because of that error mary has become the focus of faith for many if not most Catholics.. thus a tool of Satan

[Pyro7480]

If in deed mary was sinless than Christ did not come for her or save her.

That's not what the doctrine says. Read my #542. After all these years of debating this, you should be at least aware what it actually says, instead of giving a false impression.

The Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of mary are both false, non biblical doctrines. because of that error mary has become the focus of faith for many if not most Catholics.. thus a tool of Satan

Who or what are you calling a "tool of Satan" here?

[Cronos]

The teaching of the Church I am a humble member of - namely Christ's Church, the ONE Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church teaches us that Christ's sacrifice is what won us our Salvation. Church teaching is that His sacrifice is super-sufficient for our salvation.

Mary was the tool, the ark for holding God. This ark had to be purified, pure, clean, filled with grace to be able to bear God.

If you say as you did The ark was a type of Christ, not Mary then do you believe that Christ was a "container" who contained God?

[Cronos]

I'll repeat, if you say as you did The ark was a type of Christ, not Mary then do you believe that Christ was a "container" who contained God?

You DO realise that Christ was 100% God and 100% man, not a container for God's spirit, right?

Why would your group (whichever warped cult it is) believe that Jesus was a container for God's Spirit, nothing more?

If your group does not believe that Jesus was 100% God and 100% man, both natures irrevocably intertwined, but if your group believes that Jesus was possesed by God, then your group is Arian or worse and is not Christian.