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To: Cronos
you do realize that the Church does not believe in any possible way that Jesus’ divinity is due to Mary’s virginity.

I was talking about the opinions of persons who claim membership in said church. They strongly expressed their faith in the power of Mary's virginity.

Are the people not the church?

1,596 posted on 12/08/2010 1:29:46 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
They strongly expressed their faith in the power of Mary's virginity.

Maybe you could find these posts you claim exist. Are you sure you didn't just read too quickly and reverse the claimed causality, i.e., that both the Immaculate Conception and Perpetual Virginity are appropriate because Christ is divine -- they didn't cause the divinity, but were caused by it.

1,599 posted on 12/08/2010 1:39:40 PM PST by maryz
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To: Grizzled Bear
Yes, they are, however, opinion is not dogma. Dogma is the collected wisdom of faith.

I note you said "expressed their faith in the power of" -- now this does not mean they believed that His divinity was dependent on her v.

If they do think this, they are wrong and if you could point them out to me, I can direct them to the right dogma as encapsulated in the CCC (which corroborates itself with the gold-standard, namely scripture).

Many people who are members can have questions about dogma -- hey, even I do, but the key things are: 1. does it contradict the gold-standard? and 2. if not, then we are to be obedient

I know that this can be difficult for others outside the Catholic, Orthodox and Oriental and Assyrian Church to understand, but this is one where we believe that we learn and grow as a community of individuals in Christ.
1,733 posted on 12/09/2010 1:09:44 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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