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To: Cronos; Quix; RnMomof7
Do you think it impossible for the Holy Spirit to preserve a created being like Mary from sin?

That's really an irrelevant question because the issue is not whether He could but whether He did.

And since Mary says she needs a savior, then, no, He didn't. If she had not sinned, she would not have recognized her need for one.

1,389 posted on 12/08/2010 6:06:34 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
And since Mary says she needs a savior,

"That's not right; in fact, that's not even wrong"

refers to any statement, argument or explanation that is so at odds with reality that it is considered uncorrectable. The phrase implies that not only is someone not making a valid point in a discussion, but they don't even seem to understand the nature of the discussion itself, or the things that need to be understood in order to participate.

1,440 posted on 12/08/2010 7:35:41 AM PST by maryz
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To: metmom; Cronos; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
And since Mary says she needs a savior, then, no, He didn't. If she had not sinned, she would not have recognized her need for one.

That's not quite right.

Mary says she rejoices IN her Savior. This indicates that she already had salvation, it WAS NOT conditioned on a future event.

The Church has NEVER questioned the Blessed Virgin Mary's NEED for a Savior. Original Sin comes at the moment of conception, not at birth. Babies who are never born still need a Savior, yet they will NEVER commit actual sin.

The Immaculate Conception was Mary's salvation, it was performed by God Himself, to deny that He could do this is to deny His omnipotence.

1,444 posted on 12/08/2010 7:50:23 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom; Quix; RnMomof7
We like to believe that the Holy Spirit is all-powerful and He protected Mary from sin. Mary did nothing great, all of it was from God and by God, all Mary did was say yes, everything else was from God and is for the greater glory of God.

Do you think it impossible for the Holy Spirit to preserve a created being like Mary from sin?

Next your cult will be saying that God has stopped working miracles
1,505 posted on 12/08/2010 11:09:07 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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