Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
I’ve “proved it” in several of the links I posted. Go back and read them.
Why not start with this one...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2637924/posts?page=3207#3207
And this one...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2637924/posts?page=3222#3222
Your charge was that the Vatican was responsible for the Rwandan massacre.
To repeat, for the last time: a DAMNABLE LIE.
Go ahead and enjoy the satisfaction of having the last word. I won't continue to play this charade, since it's not worth responding to garbage.
1) We are not to call each other liars.
2) I believe the articles I posted. You don’t. That’s life.
3) I’m not “playing this charade” but that doesn’t mean you’re not. We have no way of knowing.
It’s a sorta game. “What’s the most scandalous thing you can find?”
Truth or even honest examination is not part of the game. Just posting the worst you can find.
Over time, some of the worst damnable lies get banned - and others are found; but, admission of lies or correction is never seen in my experience.
It’s like a game. A sick game, yes, but one that harms the carrier even more. Justice is unavoidable in this way. The worse the lie, the greater the harm on those who spread it.
Lord, have mercy.
Eyewitnesses told Helsingin Sanomat in 2007 that Bazaramba acquired weapons and led killers. One witness told the newspaper that he got weapons from Eleazar Ziherembere, at the time general secretary of the Union of Baptist Churches of Rwanda. Ziherembere fled Rwanda in 1994 and now works as area director for Africa at International Ministries of the American Baptist Churches USA.
Here're some incovenient truths that seem to be convenient for you to ignore:
Anglican bishop Samuel Musabyimana, who allegedly 'was responsible for killing or causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the Tutsi population with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a racial or ethnic group'.
[Jean Uwinkindi, pastor of the Pentecostal Church in Kanzenze] One of the most wanted promoters of the genocide that took place in Rwanda in 1994 has been arrested in Uganda.
Is someone trying for the Guinness Book of Records?
Do you want to tell us how many warnings, admonishments, and pulled posts you have had in the last year? If the number is greater than zero you are being a pretentious hypocrite.
All men are fallen.
Like Paul says, no man can keep the law perfectly.
But that doesn’t mean we’re not supposed to try. Thankfully, as far as salvation goes, Christ fulfills the law perfectly where we cannot and by God’s grace, that righteousness is freely and mercifully imputed to us.
Regarding the FR RF, the law is there to aid all of us. Thankfully, I’ve come to realize that the rules actually benefit everyone’s Christian walk by keeping our personal opinions in check and our focus on Christ.
At least that’s how it’s supposed to work. And when we abide by the rules and discuss beliefs and issues and faiths and practices and not each other, the discussion is less personal and more informative.
Some FReepers have a hard time with this, and so they are advised to stick to the caucus or ecumenical threads. That’s good advice. I’ve had a few comments pulled, and to a one, I think they were validly deleted. But that happens less and less as I obey the rules.
And I’ve never been told to leave a thread, something a few RC apologists cannot say.
No one is denying those three men were likely involved.
That doesn’t change the fact that the Vatican and dozens if not hundreds of Roman Catholic priests and nuns were complicit in the massacre, some behind bars today.
Rome even skirts an apology, coming close to admitting its dreadful part (but never quite there.) So apparently the Vatican is more candid than some RC apologists on this forum who deny any culpability for their church (notice I didn’t say “sect” or “cult.”)
No, it is the Roman Catholic church that stands accused and fails in its defense.
That speaks more about the moderators than it does you. In a forum that never fails to disappoint or reach new lows you do stand out. I know many Muslims who display far more Christian charity and good will than you do. We are called to preach the Gospel daily, sometimes with words. That is a challenge you have monumentally failed.
Not only are you criticizing the Moderators, you’re “making it personal.”
Please stop.
It is refreshing to see you finally admit that it wasn't just Catholics involved, but that Protestants also participated and even were leaders of the genocide in some cases. Thank-you.
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Don't go putting words in my mouth. You said; "All men are fallen.". I assumed that you included the mods in that group too.
When you lie about the Catholic Church you are making it personal.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
When you say I "lie" you are breaking the rules of the FR RF by imputing motive.
And criticizing any church is not against the rules nor is it "making it personal." If you take it personally, you should stick to the caucus and ecumenical threads.
Learn the rules and post according to them.
I never denied others were involved.
But the RCC was the motivating force for the genocide through decades of racist preaching and teaching in RC schools and seminaries.
I am not imputing motive, I am merely stating an observation of fact. When anyone says "X" and "X" is proven to be a lie, the one repeating it becomes a liar. Don't complain to me about this, take it up with Daniel Webster.
I have a brother, son, and uncle who are priests. Your false and vitriolic ad homenems against the Church and its clergy offend me deeply and it is not up to you to decide what should or should not offend me. In fact I have reason to believe that is your intent and that you derive some perverse pleasure from it.
Lastly, let me remind you that you are not a Moderator, a Junior Moderator, or special assistant to the moderators,an honorary moderator, a deputy moderator or even a recognized volunteer moderator. Your pretentious posing is an insult to the real moderators. As for your advice and warnings with regard to the rules you can go spread that sunshine on the lawn.
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