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10 REASONS WHY LIBERAL CATHOLICS ARE DOOMED
The Last Papist Standing ^ | 10/13/2010 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 12/03/2010 3:51:06 AM PST by markomalley

1. YOUR BASE OF SUPPORT IS DISAPPEARING

Those who welcomed and enforced the heresy and rupture foisted on the Church in the name of Vatican II are the very people who should have known better (and should have resisted). Catholics knew their faith much better two generations ago than they do today. Instead, the faithful in the pews surrendered because the “new church” told them whatever they wanted to hear. The trouble is, when you don’t have scripture and Sacred Tradition as backup, your agenda never lasts. How ironic that it is the young Catholics who are restoring what you have trashed.


2. YOUR BASE OF POWER IS DISAPPEARING


The bishops and cardinals who tolerated (and sometimes promoted) liturgical abuse, clerical abuse, “seamless garment” arguments for voting for pro-aborts, homosexual rights and other such rot are retiring, dying and getting out of the way. The Holy Father and his new prefect of the Congregation for Bishops, Cardinal Ouellet, are showing a marked preference for bishops who put truth and fidelity before politics. Then again, when your agenda is political and not God-centered, concepts like "power" and "authority" become much more important.

3. YOUR IDEAS ARE BAD

The portfolios of priests like Fr. Hans Kung, Fr. Richard Rohr, former Fr. Matthew Fox, former Fr. Leonardo Boff and others of their ilk have no credibility among educated Catholics (meaning Catholics educated in their faith). Their books don't sell and more and more bishops are showing them the door.

4. NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR CAUSES ANYMORE


Just come to any diocesan “social justice” forum or “stewardship retreat”, or better yet, look at the declining circulation of U.S. Catholic or the National Catholic Reporter. The majority of Catholics who need to see women ordained or long for a liberal pope who will bless homosexual unions have either died or had enough integrity to join the Episcopal church (or their local coven). These ideas don’t sell and young people find the whole thing to be a huge turn-off.

5. YOU HAVE SQUANDERED YOUR AUTHORITY


Instead of showing compassion to the people in the pews who had enough sense to read the Vatican II documents and question the huge ruptures you have pushed upon us, you’ve supported the wolves who have fleeced the sheep. Too many priests who were abusing young boys or pilfering the parish coffers were repeatedly transferred. Too many faithful Catholics who blew the whistle on the heresy taught in their parish have been demonized, and, in some cases, even punished with canonical sanctions. You hid behind your attorneys when devastated Catholics took you to court for letting your priests do horrible things to their sons. The authority of priests and bishops comes through the apostolic succession, yet many of your “shepherds” have despised the very source of their authority, all the while demanding blind, unquestioning submission to their own agenda of disobedience.

6. YOUR VERSION OF THE CHURCH HAS PRODUCED NO FRUIT

Where are your liberal saints? Where are your liberal vocations? Who has been a martyr or canonized for defying the Magisterium? The most liberal dioceses such as Honolulu, Los Angeles, Rochester and Rockville Centre have been almost vocationless for years. There is a proven method for drawing in vocations, but the liberals running the show would rather watch their local churches die than implement it, which leads us to number 7:

7. THE VERY CHURCH YOU HATE IS GROWING WHILE YOU WITHER


The fastest growing religious order in the world is the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, which ordains young men to exclusively offer the Traditional Latin Mass. The once-vilified Society of St. Pius X is not only back in the Catholic fold, but far outdrawing liberal parishes for Mass attendance in France. The fastest growing convent of women religious is Tennessee’s Nashville Dominicans, a very traditional group of young women who (gasp!) wear habits! The traditionally-minded bishop of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Robert Finn, is Opus Dei, and so is Cardinal Mahony’s successor in Los Angeles, Archbishop Gomez. Summorum Pontificum has unleashed an explosion of Traditional Latin Masses worldwide. Most major dioceses now have at least one Latin Mass Parish. Meanwhile, we take collections every year to foot the bill for the dying liberals in retirement who abandoned their vows (but not their orders) to become social workers.

8. YOUR LEGACY IS A JOKE

Take a look at just about any church building built in the late 60’s or early 70’s: It’s like looking at a pet rock or a film about roller disco. Chances are, the leaders of the folk group at your parish who sway as they strum every Sunday are rotund and over 50 (minimum). Read the words to some of the “hymns” in the Glory and Praise songbooks, like “Anthem” ,“Sing a New Church” or “Gather Us In”. Pure drivel. Catholics can look back on any period of Church history with awe, except for the rupture period between 1970 and today. Many of us feel embarrassment at this whole mess and future generations are guaranteed to be laughing at you for your foolishness and hubris in believing that you could somehow create a “New Church” while attempting to destroy the one Jesus left us. No one else has been able to do it and you have already failed.

9. THE 70’S ARE OVER

They are so over. Deo Gratias.

10. YOUR SOULS ARE IN PERIL
FOR WHAT YOU’VE DONE AND WHAT YOU’VE TRIED TO SELL US


You’ve ignored, slandered and mocked the last several popes. You have violated canon law. You've permitted and propagated liturgical abuses. You have enabled or looked the other way at horrendous abuses of authority by your bishops, priests, nuns, pastors and bureaucrats. You’ve lied to us that Catholics can support "choice" (abortion) while misleading us about social justice. Yet, you don’t believe in the sacrament of Confession. The proof is in your churches every Saturday afternoon, because almost no one is there, and you sure aren’t. Do you think attending a “Communal Penance Service” once or twice a year is enough to protect you? Especially when you have no intention of repenting?

No, no one is judging your soul, we're only taking a cold look at the odds. Proverbs 24:16 tells us that “a just man shall fall seven times and shall rise again; but the wicked shall fall down into evil.” If the faithful among us who are concerned about obeying God and the laws of His Church fall at least seven times a day, what do you think the odds are of you dying in a state of grace when you never darken the door of a confessional?

Let us pray that I am wrong about #10.

Then again, are you willing to bet your soul on it?


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1 posted on 12/03/2010 3:51:07 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Question: Does anyone know how the church is doing in attendance at Sunday mass across the board. Same with contributions, anyone know. The Archdiocese of NY always seems to be shrinking.


2 posted on 12/03/2010 3:56:18 AM PST by BiggieLittle
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To: markomalley

bookmark


3 posted on 12/03/2010 3:57:27 AM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: markomalley

Great post, and I believe factual too.


4 posted on 12/03/2010 3:58:02 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: markomalley

Years ago, before I became a true Christian, I sang in the Catholic folk mass. And if any Catholics are confused by that statement, I will tell you the songs we sang were ones like “Sounds of Silence” “Kumbayah” “Up with People” “If I had a Hammer” “Blowin in the Wind”, and other songs that don’t do anything to inform people of the majesty and wonder of Jesus Christ.

Granted, it was a new experiment but it was SO bad. And picture number #9 is downright scary.


5 posted on 12/03/2010 4:04:26 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: markomalley

The “Sensus Fedelium” is alive and well once again.

Thanks for the post.


6 posted on 12/03/2010 4:16:01 AM PST by theKid51
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To: markomalley

bookmark


7 posted on 12/03/2010 4:28:55 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: I still care

I was a kid in the ‘70’s,and I remember those folk groups at church only too well.

I also remember in our CCD classes,(Confraternity of Christian Doctrine...the Catholic version of Sunday school...which was on a Monday!...go figure!),instead of EVER seeing a Bible,they’d have us listening to “Godspell” or “Jesus Christ Superstar”.

I also remember us having to look through magazines in class,and cut out and paste pictures that portrayed “prejudice” on construction paper.(This was in JUNIOR HIGH!)
...and the “test” we had to pass to make our confirmation (in HIGH SCHOOL) a FIRST grader could have passed!

I don’t know what CCD is like now,(I have no kids),but it was a complete waste of time and an insult to our intelligence back then...(...and this is from a weekly Mass-attending Catholic who is very happy to see the organist and choir back!)


8 posted on 12/03/2010 4:31:14 AM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: markomalley

Wow. Excellent piece.


9 posted on 12/03/2010 4:32:46 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: markomalley

Me not understand


10 posted on 12/03/2010 4:36:48 AM PST by MNDude (And we were SO close to acheiving utopia)
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To: markomalley

It’s progressiveism ... wanting to change what’s working to something new then reaping the unintended consequences. Ask the Episcopalians about progressivism in the church ... if you can find one.


11 posted on 12/03/2010 4:49:27 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: MNDude

Not surprising.


12 posted on 12/03/2010 4:49:50 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: markomalley

Well done.


13 posted on 12/03/2010 4:57:09 AM PST by folkquest
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To: markomalley

mark, this was awesome. Absolutely spot on. As one who once was in the, ahem, diocese of the “seamless garment,” thank you for the post. I was six going on seven when my family moved across the country, from a TLM parish, to a new, Novus Ordo parish, just as all that started. I am so very deeply glad for Summorum Pontificum, words truly fail. I still live in progressivism territory, albeit fairly mildly. I look forward to (hopefully) a return to (far less progressive) Catholicism for all of us. Again, great post.


14 posted on 12/03/2010 5:01:59 AM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: markomalley
What's the best argument I can make to my pastor in support of traditional hymns at our Church? Truly Catholic songs like Faith of Our Fathers are rarely sung, and hymns that have an "evangelical" feel are becoming commonplace (complete with guitars and tambourines).

Why are traditional hymns important? How do I convince them to change what music they pick?

15 posted on 12/03/2010 5:05:15 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: I still care
Granted, it was a new experiment but it was SO bad. And picture number #9 is downright scary.

YIKES!! That could have been my sister and I...we were the guitar-toting, home Mass playing duo in the 70's! It makes me cringe.

16 posted on 12/03/2010 5:28:23 AM PST by NoExpectations
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To: markomalley

The ten listed here are but symtons of the disease of heresy that all the apostles warned against in the early church. Paul, the apostle to the gentiles by the will of God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ, warned and warns against departing from His Holy Scriptures as doctrinal truth for the truth. The roman church departed from this at the council of trent and is indeed fallen from the heavens much as Lucifer did.
Galatians 1 warns Christians saying;

. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before , so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received , let him be accursed.

And I believe this applies to most of Christiandom, both Catholics and Protestants who endorse such behaviours as listed in the article. Your choice.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 5:28:54 AM PST by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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I note also that the entire book of Jude is devoted to this warning. All ten points of the original post would equally apply to the mainline protestant confessional denominations. And for the same reasons. To their credit, most of the congregational Churches and, yes, fundamentalists, resisted it.However, to their shame, they choose not to confront it but to withdraw into themselves and avoid it. It looks like the Catholic Church will survive and emerge stronger for the experience. I don't think the mainline protestant denominations will survive, the will wither and disappear as their aging congregations die off.
18 posted on 12/03/2010 5:53:01 AM PST by circlecity
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To: markomalley

You left out the lousy music.


19 posted on 12/03/2010 5:54:44 AM PST by Mercat
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To: massmike

Sadly it hasn’t gotten any better.


20 posted on 12/03/2010 6:05:04 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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