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To: blasater1960
Contrary to your statements, the Jews were not justified is arresting or seeking to kill the Apostle Paul, because the message the Apostle Paul was proclaiming to them: the Gospel of Jesus Christ, was and is totally consistent with the Torah along with the Old Testament prophecies regarding the promised Messiah. The Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled all of the prophecies regarding the Messiah's first advent to a tee as well as providing a propititiatory sacrifice to God for all of our sins.

The Apostle Paul who you have so maligned, had nothing but the utmost concern for the spiritual well being and salvation of the Jews:

"I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart.

For I could wish that I myself were ACCURSED, SEPARATED FROM CHRIST FOR THE SAKE OF MY BRETHREN, MY KINSMEN ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, WHO ARE ISRAELITES, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen." (Romans 9:1-5 NASB, Emphasis added)

"Brethren, my MY HEART'S DESIRE FOR THEM AND MY PRAYER TO GOD FOR THEM (i.e., the Israelites) is IS FOR THEIR SALVATION. For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.

For NOT KNOWING about GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS and seeking to establish THEIR OWN, THEY DID NOT SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.

For CHRIST is THE END OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES." (Romans 10:1-4 NASB, Emphasis added )

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for IT IS THE POWER OF GOD FOR SALVATION TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES, TO THE JEW FIRST and also to the Greek. P> For IN IT (i.e., the gospel of Christ)THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IS REVEALED from faith to faith; as it is written, “But the righteous man shall live by faith.” (Romans 1:16-17 NASB, Emphasis added)

The problem with the Jews seeking to arrest and kill the Apostle Paul is that they blindly rejected the good news regarding the Messiah which he was presenting to them and it is obvious from your recent posts that although you have in the past heard the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the son of David and the promised Messiah of Israel, you have up to the present time also rejected Him as your Messiah and savior as well. This is indeed tragic because Jesus clearly states:

"Therefore I said to you that YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS; for UNLESS YOU BELIEVE THAT I AM HE (i.e., the promised messiah), YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS.” (John 8:24 NASB, Emphasis added)

The good news is that it is not yet too late; God is still being merciful and gracious; offering you another opportunity to be reconciled to God by placing your faith in His beloved Son, the Lord Jesus Christ before it is eternally too late.

As one who owes EVERYTHING in my spiritual life to the Jews (Every book in my Bible (save Luke and Acts) has come to me through Jewish authors inspired by the Holy Spirit of God to pen the Word of God; My Lord and Messiah, the one who alone has paid the terrible price for my sin and who bodily arose again from the dead, and who is coming again to establish His Messianic/Davidic kingdom centered in Jerusalem is also, in His humanity, a Jew as well.), I humbly beseech you to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ so that you may be saved.

39 posted on 11/24/2010 2:48:10 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007
the Jews were not justified is arresting or seeking to kill the Apostle Paul, because the message the Apostle Paul was proclaiming to them: the Gospel of Jesus Christ, was and is totally consistent with the Torah along with the Old Testament prophecies regarding the promised Messiah. The Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled all of the prophecies regarding the Messiah's first advent to a tee as well as providing a propititiatory sacrifice to God for all of our sins.

The gospel is not consistent with the Tanakh at all. Human sacrifice is forbidden, vicarious human atonement is forbidden, G-d is not a god-man, there is never to be a new Torah and Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies that could be measured objectively, only prophecies that could be retro actively applied and not objectively measured. Tanakh does not teach that messiah ben Yosef and messiah ben David are the same person. Nor is the messiah a god-man hybrid.

For all the lofty language Paul uses, he does in fact change Torah and was worthy of his punishment. The law is forever Psalm 111,

And I shall give them one heart, and shall put a new spirit within them. And I shall take the heart of stone out of their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances, and do them. Then they will be My people, and I shall be their God. (Ezekiel 11:19-20)

My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees. (Ezekiel 37:24)

And many peoples shall come, and say: "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths," for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. (Isaiah 2:3)

The law is forever, the Jewish people will keep the law in the messianic era. The 3rd temple will be rebuilt, sacrificial system returns (Ezek 44) The priesthood returns and on and on. None of this is NT, Pauline doctrine. None. Paul spoke presumptuously in the name of G-d. Nor did the man from Nazareth have authority because it makes G-d out to be A) a liar B) a deciever C) a G-d who changes his mind, and HaShem does not change his salvation program mid-stream.

But it is not too late for Christians either. They can repent, give up their idolatry, serve HaShem via the sheva mitzvot or convert into Judaism. G-ds grace has always been there for Gentiles, they didnt need a Grecco-Roman god-man and a new Torah.

40 posted on 11/24/2010 9:41:30 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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