Yeah, yeah, yeah. All, beware of this mindset. Because if what sitetest says is applicable in this thread discussion, then it's likewise applicable to liberal MSM media moguls & journalists.
In fact, here...why don't you ponder adding below to your FReeper homepage (words in italics are yours; other words are parallel ones I've added as a "test" to see how it sounds to extend your belief system to a parallel universe called the "MSM"):
...if one wishes to say that the liberal MSM has beliefs, ideologies and worldviews that are Keith Olberman, NY Times & CNN types of lies or even Satan's lies, that's perfectly reasonable, but that doesn't mean that MSM folks who believe them are lying or telling lies when they affirm their beliefs. Someone who affirms his worldviews, Marxist, Socialist, or otherwise has not lied or told lies by affirming his ideologies, whether he meets your standards of “journalism”...
ALL: Sitetest has just committed himself to the notion that if liberal journalists have studied & believed Marxism and is committed to that ideology...that even if these Marxist journalists say they believe the Bible -- and have studied the Bible to compare Marxist and Biblical worldviews to see where they contradict...then even if these journalists spread the lies of Marxism...these journalists themselves are not guilty of telling Marxist lies...it might be deemed whacky, goofy, unintentionally false, but doesn't constitute lies coming from their own mouths or keyboards or pens.
Irrespective of Pauline scriptural praise of Berians and explicit scriptural description of Berian practices, are rejected by sitetest.
Irrespective of scriptural Pauline praise of Berian conduct and scriptural description of Berian practices, sitetest rejects reasonable conclusions about truthfulness and lies.
Irrespective of scriptural teaching about the deceitful intentions of the heart of all men, sitetest rejects reasonable conclusions about truthfulness and lies.
Irrespective of the nature of Augustinian teaching concerning about God resisting tendency of the mind of man, sitetest rejects reasonable conclusions about truthfulness and lies.
Irrespective of the scriptural testimony of the Book of Jeremiah about the deceitful nature of man's heart, sitetest rejects reasonable conclusions about truthfulness and lies.
sitetest seems to repeatedly reject scriptural and traditional conclusions about the heart of man and the tendency to lie.