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To: Godzilla

The simple fact that Rom 5:6 & 8 Christ died for us while we were BOTH ungodly and sinners, within the entire book of Romans, we do not have to do anything to EARN that salvation.

There is no one that Jesus didn’t die for. But the salvation offered by Christ is not something that can be earned by works of righteousness - but strictly by grace. Paul said it best -

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So are you saying Godzilla, that Lucifer will receive grace?


254 posted on 11/07/2010 5:57:14 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
So are you saying Godzilla, that Lucifer will receive grace?

NEVER, lucifer is not a human being, never was, never will be, but a different creation all together. Because of his place infront of God, there was no excuse for his rebellion, nor any provision for any grace. His was a form of the unpardonable sin.

Humanity is a separate creation from the angels. I know mormonism doesn't teach that, but you asked MY interpretation as a Christian.

260 posted on 11/07/2010 6:06:03 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu
Aside from the fact that the name Lucifer is a construct of St. Jerome when he translated the Setuagint into the Latin Vulgate, and the name was only found in his translation of the Setuagint book of Isaiah (Isaiah, circa 600BC), until the King James Version. And aside from the fact that the passage in Isaiah which has no name 'Lucifer' refers to a Babylonian king, not the devil, until St. Jerome made the Latin Vulgate translation. Aside from those facts, what makes you think Satan will ask that Jesus be his savior, rather than that Jesus bow down to him as he sought Jesus to do when Jesus was out in the wilderness before finishing His ministry?

Sorry, Resty, Jesus and Lucifer have never been brothers and never will be brothers. You're exposing your profound ignorance of Christianity, Resty. Give it a rest.

262 posted on 11/07/2010 6:07:42 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu

Good day???


286 posted on 11/07/2010 7:05:39 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu; Godzilla
So are you saying Godzilla, that Lucifer will receive grace?

Resty, this is a very good question for a Mormon to ask. It's all very confusing for Mormons becasue they don't understand that angels are an entirely different order of being.

People can never become angels. Angels can never become human (in spite of all the heart-breaking infant obituaries.)

Satan/Lucifer/The devil is a fallen angel, kicked out of heaven, taking a third of the rebellious angels with him.

We are not told of any plan of salvation for fallen angels. THEY HATE OUR GUTS!!!!

385 posted on 11/08/2010 9:22:07 AM PST by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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