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To: metmom

[metmom] Nor can works ever give any guarantee of salvation because you never know if you've done enough.

You are correct. You're absolutely right.

However, you're not adding in the other side of the equation. The other side of the equation is daily repentance. Then FAITH that the Lord will forgive us for our sins as He has promised to do.

The Lords promise is our guarantee.

242 posted on 11/07/2010 5:19:54 PM PST by Stourme ((www.thebayougardener.com - my favorite website))
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To: Stourme

We do indeed need to repent of sins that we’ve committed each day, but that doesn’t mean we’re saved and not saved on a daily basis.

It’s not like we get saved, oops, we sinned so we’re not any more, and then we confess our sin so we are again, and then oops, we sinned again and aren’t... ad nauseum.

What happens then if you forget one?

Daily confessing of sin and asking for forgiveness restores the fellowship we have with God. Sin breaks the fellowship, not the relationship.

Read the Beatitudes. It’s all about the heart, not the actions. He called the Pharisees whitewashed tombs. You can be perfect in works and still not make it because you’re trusting in your own righteousness, which is really an oxymoron since we have none in and of ourselves. Our works are as filthy rags to Him.

Faith is what pleases God and makes us righteous before Him, not works.


244 posted on 11/07/2010 5:30:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Stourme; metmom
[metmom] Nor can works ever give any guarantee of salvation because you never know if you've done enough.

You are correct. You're absolutely right.

Metmom is correct, you however do not give the rest of the story stourme

The other side of the equation is daily repentance.

Not according to mormon doctrine and the teachings of your apostles and prophets stourme. Take for example the misrepresented term 'repentance' what does your doctrine state?

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 58:43: “By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.”

If you are having to continually "repent" stourme - then you never REALLY repented in the first place - according to your doctrine. Your prophet stated:

“Repentance is a thing that cannot be trifled with every day. Daily transgression and daily repentance is not that which is pleasing in the sight of God.” —Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 148

Wow, daily 'repentance' is not pleasing to your 'god' stourme. Are you willfully trying to mislead, or are have you been misled in this point?

In fact, because you have not 'repented', your doctrine states -

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 82:7: “And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.”

You have to start cleansing yourself from all your past sins too, and your god cuts you no slack does he -

ALMA 45:16: “…for the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance.”

Remember the term "filthy rags" stourme? Beginning to see it is impossible for you to become 'worthy' or godly enough for Jesus' grace.

Tell us when you have done ALL you can do.

258 posted on 11/07/2010 6:00:28 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Stourme
The other side of the equation is daily repentance.

Of WHAT?

Mormonism says that if you need to repent, then you've sinned. And if you've sinned; then you REALLY didn't repent the LAST time.

282 posted on 11/07/2010 6:58:42 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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