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To: annalex; metmom
Scripture never "obliterates" scripture. What kind of faith in Jesus Christ your Savior do you have if you think that He taught in one place something that needed obliterating in another? The scripture says once, "by works a man is justified; and not by faith only" (James 2:24); it is in context, an entire paragraph is spent on that idea, and so that is the truth, and you if obey the scripture so much, obey this one. There is not a single verse that teaches that we are saved by faith alone. Not one. Stop pretending there is one let alone "hundreds". This is why the credibility of the Prtestants charlatans is at zero: you claim to know the scripture, but you make naked false statements like that and not bring even one of these supposedly "hundred" "obliterating" verses up. You have no shame.

It becomes quite apparent to anyone who is truly a student of Scripture that your claims to "know" it are what is "nakedly false". I did not quote the verses that contradict your misreading of the context of verses in James because I already have on this thread as have many others, plus I think you are already aware of those I am speaking of. It is ironically humorous that you contend "not one" teaches we are saved by faith apart from works and state that if it did it would "obliterate" other Scripture. We know that God is the author of it and God would not contradict himself, so tell me how you can read in one place that we are saved by faith alone and in another you claim we are saved by faith AND works? Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps it is your own misreading of certain verses accompanied with a preconceived doctrine that renders you unable to see the true meaning of those verses?

You assert that the Catholic Church teaches nothing contrary to Scripture and when the numerous ones are pointed out on this thread and others you lash back with rationalized doublespeak to castigate whoever dared to make the claim. This is not the right way to answer in a debate. I can easily make the claim that the Catholic Church has repeatedly invented doctrines that are denied in the Scripture, yet because you contend that they are "Holy Tradition" it ceases to matter that Scripture is contradicted by them. Who has no shame???

5,180 posted on 12/11/2010 9:34:32 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; metmom
I did not quote the verses that contradict your misreading of the context of verses in James because I already have on this thread as have many others, plus I think you are already aware of those I am speaking of

I am aware of some spin to do with works being an automatic result from faith and that Paul said that works of the law do not say. None of that is satisfying as an answer, and I am sure if you posted your musings to me, I answered in that vain, and if you did not post your musings to me, please do so.

how you can read in one place that we are saved by faith alone

Where do I read that? There is no scripture that says "that we are saved by faith alone". That is the whole problem.

perhaps it is your own misreading of certain verses

In a dozenb verses that drive home the point, how can one "misread" " Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" (James 2:24).

I can easily make the claim that the Catholic Church has repeatedly invented doctrines that are denied in the Scripture, yet because you contend that they are "Holy Tradition" it ceases to matter that Scripture is contradicted by them.

Please make that claim, and I will respond by scripture alone, as I always respond to such claims. It is true that there are things we know from the Hoyl Tradition and not from the Holy Scripture alone, but if you claim that something that we teach contradicts scripture, show me.

I said your assertion of what James 2 says obliterates other Scripture passages

Which ones? This is your mythical "we are saved by faith alone" scripture that never surfaces up?

5,495 posted on 12/16/2010 7:12:41 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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