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To: Forest Keeper

Dear brother, you all have different versions of what you call faith,(while I agree we are all united in our belief that Christ is God Incarnate and the Holy Trinity),protestants are separated from each other on interpretations of Scripture and how to practice faith.

True “Faith alone” would mean protestants would be united in the fullness of the faith.

Basically ,protestants are always searching for meanings of Scripture in many cases,which is all well in good because at least you’re on a quest for truth,but unfortunately many end up falling into very bad heresies and end up misleading others in repeating some of the same heresies that Irenaues and others dealt with.

Having a concrete(dogmatic) faith with Sacraments and 2000 plus years of consistency to back up this teaching up is a united faith.

Dear Brother,I have often though that you could be someone who could convert to orthodox/catholic because you don’t seem closed minded in protestantism alone.

I really wish that some protestants would really take the time to read the Church fathers other than “Blessed Augustine alone” because I truly believe it would help you at least understand authentic historical faith was not many different beliefs.

Hope all is well with you and your family?

I will pray for you at Adoration today


4,469 posted on 12/03/2010 5:22:17 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Dear brother, you all have different versions of what you call faith,(while I agree we are all united in our belief that Christ is God Incarnate and the Holy Trinity),protestants are separated from each other on interpretations of Scripture and how to practice faith.

I suppose it depends on the degree or importance of the separation(s). There are certainly many churches out there I would not attend, but which claim to be "protestant". However, I would be happy to attend virtually all, if not all, of the churches of the Protestants with whom I see you regularly conversing with here on FR. I think they represent a number of different denominations, so I think it means something that we are united "enough" that worshiping in each other's churches poses no particular problem. Under other circumstances I could easily see myself joining a number of them. I would readily agree that this unity is not of the same type as Catholicism, but imo it is meaningful unity nonetheless.

Dear Brother,I have often though that you could be someone who could convert to orthodox/catholic because you don’t seem closed minded in protestantism alone.

Thank you much for the sentiment. I like to think I wouldn't have any problem converting to any legitimate Christian faith, including yours, if I thought God was really leading me there. Indeed I had to do a bit of converting to wind up where I am now. :) God could certainly choose to alter that course at any time and if He does, then I shouldn't fight it. My faith now says that both of us are right now exactly where God wants us to be, and that we should both be thankful for it.

I really wish that some protestants would really take the time to read the Church fathers other than “Blessed Augustine alone” because I truly believe it would help you at least understand authentic historical faith was not many different beliefs.

I certainly agree with you and include myself as one being in need of further reading. I am sure there is much to be gained from reading those early Christians.

Hope all is well with you and your family?

Yes, very well, thank you. I hope all is well with you and yours also. May the Christmas season bring all of you great joy.

I will pray for you at Adoration today.

Thank you, I really appreciate that. I will pray for you as well.

4,552 posted on 12/03/2010 5:24:24 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: stfassisi; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; ...
protestants are separated from each other on interpretations of Scripture and how to practice faith.

Protestants hold all ESSENTIAL scriptures as one.. that is a belief that scripture holds ALL that is necessary for salvation, on non essentials, like mode or type or timing of baptism we may differ, but we agree it is not essential for salvation..

True “Faith alone” would mean protestants would be united in the fullness of the faith.

We do not believe that we are saved by faith in FAITH.. we believe we are saved by CHRIST ...by grace THROUGH faith...not a church, or a doctrine, or sacraments , or works .when one has faith in Christ HE is the fulfillment of that faith.. or the fullness of faith

Basically ,protestants are always searching for meanings of Scripture in many cases,which is all well in good

So glad to have a catholics permission to seek Christ in His word

because at least you’re on a quest for truth,but unfortunately many end up falling into very bad heresies and end up misleading others in repeating some of the same heresies that Irenaues and others dealt with.

I do not know how catholics, that are basically biblically illiterate, are in any position to measure the truth on this . I will note again the Catholic magisterium.. has NEVER written a complete commentary of the scriptures....I suspect it is because they know that to do that would blow their false doctrine out of the water ..

Having a concrete(dogmatic) faith with Sacraments and 2000 plus years of consistency to back up this teaching up is a united faith.

LOL , I am sorry but there is no consistency , as the popes recent change on condoms shows..

Dear Brother,I have often though that you could be someone who could convert to orthodox/catholic because you don’t seem closed minded in protestantism alone.

I do not know how Forest Keeper feels about it, but I do not think you are his brother or the brother of any of the saved protestants here.. the term brother and sister are terms we tie to our faith and being brothers and sisters IN CHRIST .

I really wish that some protestants would really take the time to read the Church fathers other than “Blessed Augustine alone” because I truly believe it would help you at least understand authentic historical faith was not many different beliefs.

The "church fathers" often did not agree with each other, were often heretical in some of their thinking and , unlike the word of God were not infallible.

Some of us wish that catholics would spend as much time in the study of Gods infallible word as the do in the writings of fallible men

I will pray for you at Adoration today

If we are correct and Catholics misread the last passover.. the adoration you attend is adoration of a false god and idol.. it is blasphemy to God

4,653 posted on 12/03/2010 10:25:28 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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