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To: stfassisi; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; ...
protestants are separated from each other on interpretations of Scripture and how to practice faith.

Protestants hold all ESSENTIAL scriptures as one.. that is a belief that scripture holds ALL that is necessary for salvation, on non essentials, like mode or type or timing of baptism we may differ, but we agree it is not essential for salvation..

True “Faith alone” would mean protestants would be united in the fullness of the faith.

We do not believe that we are saved by faith in FAITH.. we believe we are saved by CHRIST ...by grace THROUGH faith...not a church, or a doctrine, or sacraments , or works .when one has faith in Christ HE is the fulfillment of that faith.. or the fullness of faith

Basically ,protestants are always searching for meanings of Scripture in many cases,which is all well in good

So glad to have a catholics permission to seek Christ in His word

because at least you’re on a quest for truth,but unfortunately many end up falling into very bad heresies and end up misleading others in repeating some of the same heresies that Irenaues and others dealt with.

I do not know how catholics, that are basically biblically illiterate, are in any position to measure the truth on this . I will note again the Catholic magisterium.. has NEVER written a complete commentary of the scriptures....I suspect it is because they know that to do that would blow their false doctrine out of the water ..

Having a concrete(dogmatic) faith with Sacraments and 2000 plus years of consistency to back up this teaching up is a united faith.

LOL , I am sorry but there is no consistency , as the popes recent change on condoms shows..

Dear Brother,I have often though that you could be someone who could convert to orthodox/catholic because you don’t seem closed minded in protestantism alone.

I do not know how Forest Keeper feels about it, but I do not think you are his brother or the brother of any of the saved protestants here.. the term brother and sister are terms we tie to our faith and being brothers and sisters IN CHRIST .

I really wish that some protestants would really take the time to read the Church fathers other than “Blessed Augustine alone” because I truly believe it would help you at least understand authentic historical faith was not many different beliefs.

The "church fathers" often did not agree with each other, were often heretical in some of their thinking and , unlike the word of God were not infallible.

Some of us wish that catholics would spend as much time in the study of Gods infallible word as the do in the writings of fallible men

I will pray for you at Adoration today

If we are correct and Catholics misread the last passover.. the adoration you attend is adoration of a false god and idol.. it is blasphemy to God

4,653 posted on 12/03/2010 10:25:28 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7; stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
I do not know how [Roman] Catholics, that are basically biblically illiterate, are in any position to measure the truth on this . I will note again the [Roman] Catholic magisteri[cal] has NEVER written a complete commentary of the scriptures....I suspect it is because they know that to do that would blow their false doctrine out of the water ..

Having a concrete(dogmatic) faith with Sacraments and 2000 plus years of consistency to back up this teaching up is a united faith.

[which being interpreted into unmangled reality NOT from the Vatican Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling =
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Having a fossilized (pseudo-pretend dogmatic, convoluted, stinking pile of intellectualized historical absurdities, anti-Biblical absurdities and irrational absurdities pretending to be faith with ritualized idolatries and blasphemies plastered with the untruth in advertising: "Sacraments," and 1600 years of existence and outrageous INCONSISTENCIES; lies, distortions, immoralities, mass murders, whip-lash idological changes; to make an intensely farcical collection of hideous rubbish then foisted on sheeple in the pews with a horrific multiplicity of different framings, assertions, practices, pontifications, further lies, further idolatrous, blasphemous rituals and further affronts to God and Scripture . . . vainly and arrogantly pretending to be in the same galaxy as consistency and outrageously pretending to have something to do with faith) and God in spite of all the contrary evidence . . . ]

LOL , I am sorry but there is no consistency , as the popes recent change on condoms shows..

Dear Brother,I have often though that you could be someone who could convert to orthodox/[Roman] Catholic because you don’t seem closed minded in protestantism alone.

I do not know how Forest Keeper feels about it, but I do not think you are his brother or the brother of any of the saved protestants here.. the term brother and sister are terms we tie to our faith and being brothers and sisters IN CHRIST .

I really wish that some protestants would really take the time to read the Church fathers other than “Blessed Augustine alone” because I truly believe it would help you at least understand authentic historical faith was not many different beliefs.

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The "church fathers" often did not agree with each other, were often heretical in some of their thinking and , unlike the word of God were not infallible.

Some of us wish that [Roman] Catholics would spend as much time in the study of Gods infallible word as the do in the writings of fallible men. [Besides which, the RC's slice and dice & fantasize about the early Christian writers as much as they slice and dice and fantasize about God's own Word--creating great skyscrapers of dogma founded on the smoke from the burning of splinters of toothpics of Scripture.]

I will pray for you at Adoration today

If we are correct and [Roman] Catholics misread the last passover.. the adoration you attend is adoration of a false god and idol.. it is blasphemy to God

4,658 posted on 12/04/2010 12:56:13 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7
Protestants hold all ESSENTIAL scriptures as one..

I don't believe this at all. Can you list them and we can have a whole thread on what exactly are the essential scriptures? What are the essential scriptures that are held by all Protestants? I await your pleasure...

4,675 posted on 12/04/2010 9:16:07 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: RnMomof7

RN-””We do not believe that we are saved by faith in FAITH.. we believe we are saved by CHRIST ...by grace THROUGH faith...not a church, or a doctrine, or sacraments , or works .when one has faith in Christ HE is the fulfillment of that faith.. or the fullness of faith””

Actually, you believe you are saved by doing nothing.Thus, it can even give someone a reason to exude hatred towards others on religion forums and it all means nothing because convincing oneself your guaranteed heaven gives someone a license not to act like Christ at all,so you end up acting like the dualistic zeus like God instead

RN-””II will note again the Catholic magisterium.. has NEVER written a complete commentary of the scriptures....I suspect it is because they know that to do that would blow their false doctrine out of the water ..””

Nonsense, the Catechism is complete in what the Scriptures all mean and How to live a Christian life.

Protestants have so many commentaries of Scripture opposite of each other that it is ridiculous and delusional to think you have a united faith.

RN-””I do not think you are his brother or the brother of any of the saved protestants here.. the term brother and sister are terms we tie to our faith and being brothers and sisters IN CHRIST .””

I consider this response demonic and evil.Thankfully I know that all protestant do not feel this way

“”The “church fathers” often did not agree with each other, were often heretical in some of their thinking and , unlike the word of God were not infallible””

The Church fathers who ended up canonized Saints always ended up conforming to Church teach eventially even when they went off track from time to time.They were obedient to the Faith!

When you say the word of God is infallible what you are saying is it is only infallible to how YOU interpret it, thus it is really you who thinks YOU ARE infallible.That is the cold hare truth,like it or not!

“”If we are correct and Catholics misread the last passover.. the adoration you attend is adoration of a false god and idol.. it is blasphemy to God””

I’m 100% positive you’re not correct,especially since many prayers have been answered along with many miracles through Adoration that is all Glory to Christ.

I really wish you would stop posting me because I really feel an evil presence around you-and I don’t say that lightly either


4,687 posted on 12/04/2010 10:05:25 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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