Stf-””Non Catholics can never say “the faith is the faith” regardless of departures because there is no foundation of an forever changing faith that makes up their faith and departures is the core of protestant faith””
MM-”Not so, because the foundational element is the belief in salvation through faith in Christ alone.”
Non Catholics immediately depart from the foundational element of Christ alone once they make up their own theology of what Christ taught that cannot be measured against consistent historical Christianity. Protestantism is not united in faith alone, otherwise you would be united in things like infant Baptism ,etc..and of one mind in scripture interpretations with concrete teachings that can never change.
Protestant theology is always changing (not as much so with mainstream protestants because they adopted things from Catholicism) and can hardly ever be pinned down. The only time you get things right is when you borrow from Catholic Theology
I accept protestants as brothers and sisters in Christ based on their belief that Christ is God(which is Catholic dogma),but I reject much of how you theologically make Christ out to be understood
Believing in Christ alone does not mean many truths opposite of each other of what Christ taught
Who's departed from the foundational faith of Christ alone? Give us some examples of anyone here who says it's not Christ alone?
Protestantism is not united in faith alone, otherwise you would be united in things like infant Baptism ,etc..and of one mind in scripture interpretations with concrete teachings that can never change.
The Catholic church is hardly united in matters of faith and doctrine. Look at the difference between what has been revealed by the Orthodox that they believe that the Roman Catholics don't.
The Orthodox don't believe in transubstantiation and don't recognize the papacy.
Individual posters here who claim to be dyed in the wool Catholics don't believe in eternal torment in hell, but rather the JW and Christian Science teachings of soul annihilation.
For that matter, the issue of salvation outside the Catholic church is taught both for and against in different places in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Same with whether Jesus meant Peter is the rock on which His church was built or Peter's statement about Christ being the rock on which Christ builds His church.
Every man his own pope.....
YOPIOS, YOPIOT
And how many years did it take to determine whether Mary was perpetually a virgin? Or whether she was assumed?
And the Catechism of the Catholic church where one pope says, *No salvation outside the Catholic church* period, to the current one *amended* by Vatican II?
YOPIOTCOTCC.
In truth, Bible-believing Protestants ARE (at least reasonably) united in faith alone. Among Bible-believing Protestants, those who practice infant baptism and those who do not ALL agree that any form of water baptism does NOT confer salvation. We are all united that concerning salvation it is faith alone, NOT water baptism. It is likewise with scripture interpretation. While there are differences on some issues, Bible-believing Protestants are united that scripture in fact teaches faith alone for salvation.