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To: Cronos
"Luther’s writings on Jews was a characteristic of his time."

True revolutionaries and men of God are not merely reflections of their times, but men who break away from the constraints and biases of their times and lead on to a new and better world. Luther, as illustrated by his books on Jews, was a highly flawed individual who was used by the German princes to enable their break with the Holy Roman Empire and facilitate and justify their seizing of the assets of the Church and wealthy Jews. He was instrumental for their violent put down of peasant revolts. He was rewarded handsomely for these sins in this life. Do you really believe that he was rewarded in the next?.

4,268 posted on 12/02/2010 8:44:42 AM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: Natural Law
About true revolutionaries -- I doubt Luther wanted to be that, at least initially. You must remember what made Luther change from studying law to choose to become a priest
He later attributed his decision to an event: on 2 July 1505, he was on horseback during a thunderstorm and a lightning bolt struck near him as he was returning to university after a trip home. Later telling his father he was terrified of death and divine judgment, he cried out, "Help! Saint Anna, I will become a monk!"[17] He came to view his cry for help as a vow he could never break. He left law school, sold his books, and entered a closed Augustinian friary in Erfurt on 17 July 1505.[18] One friend blamed the decision on Luther's sadness over the deaths of two friends. Luther himself seemed saddened by the move. Those who attended a farewell supper walked him to the door of the Black Cloister. "This day you see me, and then, not ever again," he said.[16] His father was furious over what he saw as a waste of Luther's education.
Luther did believe that Reason could not lead men to God, and his 95 theses are also written more as one inquiring rather than on proscribing doctrine

Luther was a highly flawed individual -- yes, but so are we all.

You are right that he was used by the German princes to enable their break with the Holy Roman Empire and facilitate and justify their seizing of the assets of the Church and wealthy Jews and that his presence was instrumental for their violent put down of peasant revolts (they could now say God wanted them to be utter rulers and their subjects could not appeal to the Church as the Church and ruler were one)

Do you really believe that he was rewarded in the next?. -- hmm... I don't know and I don't wish to judge Luther. I still persist in seeing in him a man caught in a whirlwind of his own making and not knowing how to get out.
4,269 posted on 12/02/2010 8:53:40 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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