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To: Cronos

Semper reformanda as a “slogan” is not Lutheran. Semper reformanda as an idea is Lutheran. But it does not mean what you say. Semper reformanda is to the Christian Church what a repentant life is to the Christian. Just as the individual in this life is to be continually returning to the Lord sorrowing over his sins and desiring God’s forgiveness and strengthening so that he might live before God as His true child, so too is the church on earth (which is composed of nothing but repentant children of God) to be continually returning to the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets in order to examine herself, her doctrines and her practice, to see that they are in accord with God’s revealed will.

Real Lutherans subscribe unconditionally to the Lutheran Confessions, that is, to the Book of Concord of 1580, which is composed of the three Ecumenical Creeds, the Augsburg Confession, the Apology (Defense) of the Augsburg Confession, the Small Catechism, the Large Catechism, the Smalcald Articles, the Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope, and the Formula of Concord. These confessions are understood to be the “norma normata” of Christian doctrine because they are draw from that which is the “norma normans,” i.e., the only source and norm of Christian doctrine, the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament. Far from being “ever changing,” this is ever returning to the doctrine that never changes.

There is no modification of the Book of Concord. Truth remains truth.


3,981 posted on 12/01/2010 9:48:43 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Belteshazzar
Semper reformanda as a “slogan” is not Lutheran

I don't doubt that. In fact I think it's something met made up

Do note that the translation is Always reforming -- that can't be the beliefs of Lutherans, can it? You don't toss out the beliefs in the True Presence, in the sacrament of Baptism, etc. just because you want to keep reforming, correct?

What you have described is continually trying to emulate Christ, not always reforming, changing.

There is no modification of the Book of Concord. Truth remains truth. --> so then the slogan Always reforming is as silly to you as to me. You as a Lutheran will also reject the extreme groups that toss out all orthodox belief (who could never recite the Nicene creed) like the Unitarians or JWs or OPC or LDS.

The post as I noted before, was directed at met who stated that slogan and it being apt for her group, an always reformating group
4,214 posted on 12/02/2010 1:31:34 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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