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To: Cronos; boatbums; annalex; presently no screen name
Met evidently believes in the latter 3, yet she asks where the former is in scripture without bothering to note that all are not terms directly found in scripture.

On the contrary, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Catholic position in rejecting *sola Scriptura* simply because the term isn't found in the Bible, and yet it goes and teaches the Trinity, the *Mother of God*, the Immaculate Conception, the inerrancy of Scripture none of which are mentioned by term in the Bible.

3,960 posted on 12/01/2010 7:06:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Cronos
On the contrary, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Catholic position in rejecting *sola Scriptura* simply because the term isn't found in the Bible, and yet it goes and teaches the Trinity, the *Mother of God*, the Immaculate Conception, the inerrancy of Scripture none of which are mentioned by term in the Bible.

And my point, too, was that there is more than sufficient Scriptural proof for the truths of sola scriptura, the trinity and sola fide even if the exact words are not used.

4,085 posted on 12/01/2010 7:31:11 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: metmom; boatbums; annalex; presently no screen name
Hardly -- do read your post #3677 again -- this is ostensibly in response to Annalex saying Mary the Mother of God was at the Cross along with Mary Cleophas and Mary Magdalene. Mary the Mother of God was not among the women bringing myrrh to the tomb.

And in response to this you say Um, where is the term *Mother of God* found in Scripture?

There is no discussion about "sola scriptura" --> until NOW.

So where is the term 'sola scriptura' found in Scripture?

Where is the term 'sola fide' found in scripture (trick question :-) ?

We don't believe in the term "sola scriptura" i.e. ALONE. hence your argument about why we follow terms that aren't there is nonsensical -- YOU believe in sola scriptura, i.e. every term should be in the Bible ALONE, yet you believe in non-Biblical terms like "sola scriptura", "sola fide", "trinity".

Check the plank in your own eye...
4,187 posted on 12/01/2010 11:50:57 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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To: metmom; Cronos; boatbums; presently no screen name
the hypocrisy of the Catholic position in rejecting *sola Scriptura* simply because the term isn't found in the Bible, and yet it goes and teaches the Trinity,...the Immaculate Conception...

"Hypocrisy" is a word describing a moral defect, namely when a higher moral standard is urged than the one actually adhered to. When you are facing a putative defect in logic rather than morals, the word does not apply; the word becomes "inconsistent" or "self-contradictory".

There is no contradiction here. The Church teaches things outside of the Bible because the Sola Scriptura is wrong: the scripture authorizes theChruch to teach outside fo the Bible ("the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you", John 14:26).

However, the Protestant sects think that Sola Scriptura is correct. Then it is fair to ask them: if Sola Scriptura is correct, then where is it found in the Bible? Mind you, not "where the actual words found" by where is the idea found? I think that the Trinity (and of course the "Mother of God"; the Immaculate Conception has be easily inferred as well, but I agree that the Church at times teaches outside of the Bible, you just don't know her teaching enough to even pick your examples right) are all in the Bible even though not in the actual words. But I don't think Sola Scriptura is in the Bible even remotely; as I showed, its opposite is taught directly from the Bible.

4,923 posted on 12/07/2010 5:46:08 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: metmom; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; ...
I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Catholic position in rejecting *sola Scriptura* simply because the term isn't found in the Bible, and yet it goes and teaches the Trinity, the *Mother of God*, the Immaculate Conception, the inerrancy of Scripture none of which are mentioned by term in the Bible.

Does whatever group you belong to reject the Trinity?

As far as the term mother of God, how is this term any different from Elizabeth addressing her as the "mother of my Lord" in Luke 1:43? Please note that the word Lord is capitalized in this verse, I am not aware of a single verse in the Bible where the term is capitalized that does not refer to God and EVERY time the capitalized word Lord is used in the New Testament it is referring to Jesus Christ (in some of His parables he uses the term lord, but it is never capitalized).

There are really only three reasons why a person should reject the term mother of God and NONE OF THEM actually have anything to do with Mary:

1. They do not believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary.
2. They do not believe that Jesus Christ is God.
3. They believe that Jesus Christ is God now, but that He was somehow elevated to this position after the Resurrection and was just a man during His life.

Many Protestants are so eager to distance themselves from Catholic Marian beliefs that they never really consider the implications of what they are saying.

4,927 posted on 12/07/2010 6:35:05 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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