If you do, tell us what is God, what is divine?
If you haven't got past that, how could you believe in God.
I didn't say I believed in God. I said I don't believe in your God. That much I am certain. Having said that, I don't know what God is and whether God exists or not. That's not saying God doesn't exist.
You have posted - how can you believe something you don't know and that you need proof of it. So how can you claim you never said those things? Spinning?
No, just your apparent lack of comprehension of finer thought. Not knowing if something exists is not the same as saying it doesn't exist, because saying it doens't exit means you know what it is and are denying its existence.
More spinning. You do MORE than ask questions - get real.
The only spinning is you going around in circles apparently not comprehending simple logic. And yes I do more than ask question, such as having to waste time and bandwidth explaining what should be obvious to people like you.
Since you want proof and God says 'by faith' - what are you doing here?
Get lost troll! I have no right to ask theological questions? But since you brought it up, frankly I don't give a hoot what you say your God says. WHY should I believe you? And, the good thing is, I don't HAVE to, despite your intolerant attitude.
Calling His Word 'error' in many of your posts when you don't even KNOW 'What God is' - WHO God is.
I don't have to know what God is to know errors when I see them. Where does it say that you know? Do you have a certificate of authenticity? Let's see it.
You aren't here to build up but to tear down.
More mind radding (RM must be busy).
Christians live by faith, not by sight
That's fine, then state everything as faith, not fact. Every time I see faith stated as fact I ask for proof, because facts are subject to proof.
This isn't about you - it's a thread about 'IN CHRIST ALONE'. God's WORD REIGNS, Always has and Always will.
How do you know that?
There is no way to ever determine what error is if there's no objective, absolute standard of truth by which to measure it.
Therefore, if you claim that you know error when you see it, you are by default stating that you know the truth, the absolute, objective truth, have compared the claim to that absolute, objective truth, and been able to make an accurate, objective decision on the accuracy of the claim.
Now from someone who says that they don't even know if God exists, there is no way to make that determination because anyone who claims that they don't even know if God exists can't turn around and claim that they know truth exists. God is truth. Truth cannot be separated from God.
So which is it? Is there truth? Is there God? Is there truth without God? How do you know?
Do not pride yourself too much on your intellectual or philosophical prowess. It fails miserably. It's got holes in it a second grader can see through.
Get lost troll! I have no right to ask theological questions? But since you brought it up, frankly I don't give a hoot what you say your God says. WHY should I believe you? And, the good thing is, I don't HAVE to, despite your intolerant attitude.
How tolerant of you.....
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's fine, then state everything as faith, not fact. Every time I see faith stated as fact I ask for proof, because facts are subject to proof.
And the determination that what you call facts is a subjective, philosophical determination, as is what qualifies as a *proof*. You are displaying faith in your facts, that your facts are indeed facts, and faith in your philosophical abilities that they yield an accurate, objective, correct conclusion.
The question still remains.... How can you call yourself a Christian or a Catholic or whatever it is you claim to be, when you aren't even sure that the object of that faith even exists? Are you saying that you have faith in something (God) when you don't even know if He IS?
That sounds real profound..... I believe in something that I'm not even exists.
And you get all offended when call you on it? Get real....
Peddle your deceptive wares somewhere else.
kosta50 wrote:
“I don’t have to know what God is to know errors when I see them. Where does it say that you know? Do you have a certificate of authenticity? Let’s see it.”
I don’t want to intrude on your debate with metmom. However, I would like to elicit a point of information from you. Regarding the “certificate of authenticity,” of which you speak, who/what would be the certifier?
Okay, then if you admit you don't know what God is, how can you say you don't believe in "our" God? How do you even know that "god" isn't the right one? On what do you base this? You said:
Not knowing if something exists is not the same as saying it doesn't exist, because saying it doens't exit means you know what it is and are denying its existence.
Yet you state you know "our" God is not the true one. Who is running circles? You are not being consistent or honest.