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To: kosta50; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor; Kolokotronis
It not about word smithing. It's all about context. Here are different ENGLISH interpretation of the meaning of "sacrifice/victim":

You certainly would not change "the sacrifices made by parents" to "the victim made by parents" although many parents feel victimized at times. Nor would you say a "a frequent sacrifice of political attacks". Both usage would be silly in English. What is important is the context in which the word is used.

Christ was not a victim. Christ free gave himself as a sacrifice. None of the interpretations agree with the term "victim". Nor does Church history concur that Christ was a victim in context. (Not to mention the said passage was added as commentary.) While you might think that Greek is such a pure language, when translating into English there are nuances to terms.

Even the American Greek Orthodox versions uses the word "sacrifice". ;O)

2,791 posted on 11/20/2010 6:28:10 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; stfassisi; mas cerveza por favor; Kolokotronis
Christ was not a victim. Christ free gave himself as a sacrifice

An innocent man killed for the sins of others is a victim, HD. Saint Luke certainly thought so. There is nothing just about his suffering and dying for sinners. Nor is mercy a form of justice.

While you might think that Greek is such a pure language, when translating into English there are nuances to terms.

Greek has more nuances than English can translate. But it's not about the "purity." It's what words in it mean. Greek is not at fault. Translations are.

2,804 posted on 11/20/2010 11:48:43 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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