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To: Natural Law
"Well some folks are willing to follow the pope Luther and Calvin right into hell if that is where he leads">

The problem is this..IF Catholic doctrine were to be true, that salvation is based on being baptized, keeping the law and doing good works ..it would not keep protestants out of heaven ... However if the Rc is wrong and the reformation correct, GOOD catholics, that follow the church and her teachings would go to hell, because they have refused to come in Faith to Christ and choose instead to trust in themselves, their works and the church

How sad, when Christ promised us HIS yoke is easy, that we can rest in Him..that He is the author and finisher of our faith.

Men need to repent their self sufficiency and pride and come to the cross of Christ to be saved.

1,575 posted on 11/12/2010 4:20:01 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7
"GOOD catholics, that follow the church and her teachings would go to hell..."

This just shows the contempt Calvinists have for the teachings of a loving and forgiving God that they would believe that Good people, striving to follow Christ would go to hell. It shows that the Calvinist concept of sin is not that it requires a conscious choice of evil over good, but a failure of coerced conformance to a set of rules. This is not at all like the Catholic belief that to obey (from the Latin ob-audire, to "hear or listen to") in faith is to submit freely to the word that has been heard.

This makes me better understand the Calvinist rejection of works since works reluctantly performed are not a gift to God and will not help with ones Salvation.

1,581 posted on 11/12/2010 5:09:14 PM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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