No it's not. But it's a mask we've seen before.
Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
The Reformation reverted to Dagon with the blood lust of pagan gods. Very good. I didn't realize that you would actually admit it.
Calvin tried for this and failed. Jealous?
That should shut the mouth of any Catholic in defending the Inquisition and the history of their church, but without reading any further, I am going to say that I fear we will STILL see the RCC defenders defend and excuse their church’s history instead of acknowledge it and renounce it.
In that case, however, it puts them in a serious bind. They are then forced to admit and concede that their church is not only infallible, but has been filled with vice, sin, and corruption. To call that organization with that kind of behavior in instrument of God, the very church established by Christ Himself, is a lie of the greatest magnitude.
NO ONE, nor any one organization, can claim to be Christ’s representative on earth and engage in that kind of demonically inspired evil.
It’s not simply a matter of *Yeah, some mistakes were made. After all, they’re only human.* This is Satanic barbarity of the greatest degree, not only in the horrible scenarios you described, but worst yet, doing it in the name of Christ and God.
And then Catholics have the audacity to shred someone who disagrees with them and end with the smarmy *May God have mercy on your soul*.
The level of delusion and denial that makes someone deny and excuse and even defend this kind of behavior is breathtaking.
Not exactly. It's that the Protestant is usually wrong when it comes to Christianity. Ask the Anglicans, ELCA, PCUSA, Methodists, and any sort of Protestant group that happens to cross your path.
Don't flatter yourself. I would simply put you in a comfy chair.
Matthew 27:24-25 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
NL, do you not read the Bible and know what it says?
You guys are the ones wallowing in Inquisitional glee. Me, I look at it this way - energy prices are very high nowadays, so, sometimes two problems will solve each other...
Well, isn't that just hypocritical of them?
Tell me, I don't recall ever hearing of the Catholic church renouncing the Inquisition. Did it ever do that?
Did it ever make restitution to the descendants of those it robbed to torture them?
Well, gamecock, here’s another one for your list.....
Post 525....
“The Church IS a political power as well as a spiritual power, and it would be criminal for the Church not to use the power she has for the goals dictated by justice, using force as appropriate.”
And 526, gamecock.
Post #469: Torture was considered a valid interrogation technique, but the state did the executions, not the Church.
Post #524: The Holy Inquisition was an ecclesial court that investigated heresy and publicly excommunicated the guilty using the best methods available and thought proper at the time in cooperation with the civil authority. I support American Inquisition, that would utilize modern techniques and cooperate with the civil authority of the United States, in order to, foremostly, publicly excommunicate those Catholics who hold positions of power and teach contrary to the Catholic doctrines, or commit sexual abuse. The Church, incidentally, condemned the use of torture by the US government, so that might do something good also to the US secular practices.
And thus we must conclude that the "right to torture" is held exclusively by the Catholic Church. The Church can torture someone all year long, so long as the final, actual death blow is rendered by the civil government.
Your profile page indicates that you profess to be a monarchist (much as the dearly departed B-Chan was). Is it your desire to see the USA turned into a Catholic monarchy, where the Church gets the right to execute, too? I have to wonder what your ballot looked like in last Tuesday's elections, annalex.
My political ideal is feudal society. This makes me a monarchist. I believe that modern forms of government are an understandable reaction to the excesses of absolute monarchies of 16-19c Europe.
annalex's profile page, accessed 11/4/2010
"The commandment to turn another cheek applies when someone is attacking you. When someone is attacking Christ, His Saints, or His Church, we are to strike back because we love God and one another."
-- FReeper annalex, July 8, 2008
I am all for perceived blasphemy and propaganda to be subject to censorship....I do not think that modern institutions, especially the UN, are capable for drawing the right distinctions.
-- FReeper annalex, April 2, 2009
"I pray that Catholicism in America rids itself from the political left that for a while got the upper hand at the Vatican II. This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation."
-- FReeper annalex, September 20, 2010
Did the Church ever demand restitution of all those who robbed it over the centuries? What about the priests killed - even now, in Turkey? How about here in the United States? What about the nuns raped and killed by Muslims and others? What about the churches violated and confiscated by Protestants and Muslims and used for their own ends? Where is your restitution? What do you have to offer?
I actually had a FReeper tell me the other day that they hoped for another “Holy Inquisition” in their lifetime.
Conversion by the sword...sounds like...Islam.
So the church advocates breaking the laws of one country to *help* those of another who enter aforementioned country illegally?
Why doesn't the Church do something in the country of origin of these poor people instead of destroying the US by advocating illegal immigration?
Seems to me that the proper mission would be to raise the standard of living in the impoverished countries the illegals are fleeing. Those countries often have abundant natural resources. The reason they're poor is because of corrupt and immoral governments.
And considering the poorest are often heavily Catholic, why doesn't the Catholic church exert it's influence in those heavily Catholic countries cleaning out the corruption and immorality in the government there?
Then it can help the people there by educating their children and teaching them marketable skills, and moral lifestyles, and decent basic hygiene and health care? Why foist it off in the US to pay for and bankrupt us?
When did the Catholic church stop that?
In fact, the US last that I heard does not punish for being outside the Catholic Church at all.
Because the US is based on Protestantism instead of Catholicism. People are not punished in the US for being outside the Catholic church because this is the US and not the Catholic church. Based on RCC history, it the Catholic church had its way, we would be.
boatbums, Did I tell you in post 543?
Was I right?
MB:Calvin tried for this and failed. Jealous?
NO!!!! God forbid!
Jesus did NOT establish the church to be a political power or country of its own. The church is in the world but not OF the world.
But you are perfectly all right with Calvin's Geneva. You are okay with James VI of Scotland. You are okay with all of the Protestant governments that exist or have existed, such as Norway, Sweden, and most of the original American colonies, who practiced torture and death upon those who did not share in their beliefs such as Baptists, Quakers, and Catholics?
That is all okay until the shoe is on the other foot? What in the world has made you so bitter against Catholics? You were not so angry until recently.
The mask is slipping. It certainly seems that the Catholic’s true colors have been showing lately.
And it’s not a pretty picture.
No it's not. But it's a mask we've seen before.
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