[metmom]

sv: This would be a good analogy except for one important difference: The Vatican is ITS OWN INDEPENDENT STATE. The world's smallest SOVEREIGN NATION. With its own GOVERNMENT, FLAG, POSTAL SYSTEM, COINS, RADIO STATION, and DIPLOMATIC CORPS. It has POLITICAL POWER. Not just religious. Countries have pacts and treaties with ROME. Church and State are ONE.

MB:Calvin tried for this and failed. Jealous?

NO!!!! God forbid!

Jesus did NOT establish the church to be a political power or country of its own. The church is in the world but not OF the world.

[MarkBsnr]

Jesus did NOT establish the church to be a political power or country of its own. The church is in the world but not OF the world.

But you are perfectly all right with Calvin's Geneva. You are okay with James VI of Scotland. You are okay with all of the Protestant governments that exist or have existed, such as Norway, Sweden, and most of the original American colonies, who practiced torture and death upon those who did not share in their beliefs such as Baptists, Quakers, and Catholics?

That is all okay until the shoe is on the other foot? What in the world has made you so bitter against Catholics? You were not so angry until recently.