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To: annalex; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
Post #467: The Church exists in time and is as a political entity, is not infallible. However, that does not diminish my desire to see a robust inquisition instituted today.

Post #469: Torture was considered a valid interrogation technique, but the state did the executions, not the Church.

Post #524: The Holy Inquisition was an ecclesial court that investigated heresy and publicly excommunicated the guilty using the best methods available and thought proper at the time in cooperation with the civil authority. I support American Inquisition, that would utilize modern techniques and cooperate with the civil authority of the United States, in order to, foremostly, publicly excommunicate those Catholics who hold positions of power and teach contrary to the Catholic doctrines, or commit sexual abuse. The Church, incidentally, condemned the use of torture by the US government, so that might do something good also to the US secular practices.

And thus we must conclude that the "right to torture" is held exclusively by the Catholic Church. The Church can torture someone all year long, so long as the final, actual death blow is rendered by the civil government.

Your profile page indicates that you profess to be a monarchist (much as the dearly departed B-Chan was). Is it your desire to see the USA turned into a Catholic monarchy, where the Church gets the right to execute, too? I have to wonder what your ballot looked like in last Tuesday's elections, annalex.

My political ideal is feudal society. This makes me a monarchist. I believe that modern forms of government are an understandable reaction to the excesses of absolute monarchies of 16-19c Europe.
annalex's profile page, accessed 11/4/2010
"The commandment to turn another cheek applies when someone is attacking you. When someone is attacking Christ, His Saints, or His Church, we are to strike back because we love God and one another."
-- FReeper annalex, July 8, 2008
I am all for perceived blasphemy and propaganda to be subject to censorship....I do not think that modern institutions, especially the UN, are capable for drawing the right distinctions.
-- FReeper annalex, April 2, 2009
"I pray that Catholicism in America rids itself from the political left that for a while got the upper hand at the Vatican II. This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation."
-- FReeper annalex, September 20, 2010

551 posted on 11/04/2010 7:13:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

The mask is slipping. It certainly seems that the Catholic’s true colors have been showing lately.

And it’s not a pretty picture.


559 posted on 11/04/2010 7:50:48 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Those are interesting positions they explain alot

Thanks


571 posted on 11/04/2010 9:03:43 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix

the Roman Catholic crazy train ran off the tracks a long time ago


590 posted on 11/04/2010 9:55:46 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix
but the state did the executions, not the Church

oh yippee! they can wash their hands of it, just like in Jesus' situation

591 posted on 11/04/2010 9:57:52 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix
And thus we must conclude that the "right to torture" is held exclusively by the Catholic Church. The Church can torture someone all year long, so long as the final, actual death blow is rendered by the civil government

Talibantics

593 posted on 11/04/2010 9:59:53 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7
we must conclude that the "right to torture" is held exclusively by the Catholic Church

No, because the Church condemns its use and even the Church's complicity in the acts of torture in the past, see my 523.

Is it your desire to see the USA turned into a Catholic monarchy [...]?

The American Republic legitimately seceded from the British (flawed as it was to begin with) Monarchy and does not have a legitimate monarch. On my profile page I outline a process by which any society can regrow aristocracy and eventually become feudal. I don't see it happening soon in America, but it is certainly a possibility over generations. I do not advocate any regime changes other than by electoral means.

Of all countries I know America seems the least suited for monarchy because it lacks the feudal past. But maybe just because of that, and because of the incredible dynamism possessed by the American people, we may be among the first to restore it.

where the Church gets the right to execute

The Church never had or claimed or desired such a right.

807 posted on 11/05/2010 6:11:53 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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