In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)

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[Natural Law]

"And then, they say "Why can't Catholics answer this question?""

Because they are not looking for an answer or even an opportunity to explore and educate, they are looking only for an opportunity to berate and belittle.

No answer offered or authored by a Catholic will ever approach the infinite perfection of the one developed in their own mind which features them as the epitome and God's pet.

A priest once told me that to achieve joy in our lives we need only look at the word joy and understand that it gives us the formula. Our priorities in life must be Jesus, Others, Yourself. It seems to me that the anti-Catholics start and stop at "Y" and therefore have no real joy in their lives. It is a shame they work so hard to ensure no one else has any either.

[MarkBsnr]

Give the insane rhetoric a rest, Mark.

Rhetoric is not insane. Only people are, as is well demonstrated by the harpies. If you would call my defense of Christianity insane, then so be it. I would rather be Christian than the defender of Dagon, as the Reformation turned out to be.

That photo was not photo-shopped.

You posted it from an anti Catholic website with no attribution (as your previous anti Catholic photos were). You say it is not photoshopped. You posted it. You prove it. I am not the one with a history of photoshopped pictures on this site.

It wasn’t a photo of a cat, either.

[Natural Law]

"You’ve never given much evidence of understanding Scripture before. This post simply adds to that conviction."

I would disagree based upon the content of her posts and the beatitude she exhibits, but will concede that she doesn't make a conceited show of spouting the same few versus time and time again.

However, if you are right how much greater the sin for those of you who claim to actually have deep knowledge of the scripture but carry on in such a reprehensible and uncharitable manner in defiance of it?

[MarkBsnr]

What is the Gospel Christ preached, Mark? What is the Good News?

You ask me again. I tell you again. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Hey, if it was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me. If it's not good enough for you, why do you call yourself a Christian?

[Natural Law]

" If it's not good enough for you, why do you call yourself a Christian?"

Because even she can't keep a straight face when saying Pauliwog.

[MarkBsnr]

They will never be able to say what the good news of the Gospel is, it's the Great Catholic Catch 22. To be able to say what it is, they would have to go beyond Matt, Mark, Luke & John. BUT they are arguing now that Paul was not even an Apostle.

Ah, ah, ah. Two things. If you surpass Jesus, then you are not Christian. The Gospel IS Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Paul and the Apostles do not surpass Jesus. Neither do any true believers. There is no Catholic that says that Paul is not an Apostle. Not one. I challenge you to produce one who does, or better still, anywhere in the Catechism which says otherwise.

He is clearly the Apostle to the Gentiles. But they don't believe they are the Gentiles. They believe they are spiritual Israel.

Again, wrong. Who says that Catholics are spiritual Israel? Nowhere does Catholicism say that. Wrong. Where are you getting your characterizations of Catholics from? Ian Paisley?

So Paul is out.

Paul is not out. He, along with Peter are the two greatest Apostles in Christendom. Are you attempting to set the record for wrong about Catholicism?

And they go from John to James. And they are left with faith without works is dead. They begin with the Kingdom Message and they end with the Kingdom Message. The Gospel of the Grace of God is completely overlooked and ignored....

Completely wrong once again. I see that a tour through the Catechism might disabuse you from your comic book portrayal of Catholicism - and true Christianity.

Because they aren't gentiles...

Untrue charges upon untrue charges. Young lady, wherever do you get these things from? You have managed to challenge the good Dr. E. for untruths about Catholicism in a single post. Quite a feat. Dr. E., how do you respond? Would you like me to referee an anti Catholic spew-off?

[MarkBsnr]

To wish for a return to the Inquisition is sick and reveals a diseased mind and spirit.

In these troubled times, when heresy runs frequent and deep, and energy prices are as high as they are, very often two troubles combine to form a solution.

[Judith Anne]

I went and found the source of that photo, it was just another bunch of garbage, from the “reformers’” trash, I guess they spend entire days rooting around in it.

Here’s the source, go there and scroll down. Amazing junk.

http://marienfried.com/catholic%20teachings/false%20popes%20versus%20infallibility.html

[MarkBsnr]

And why would an OPC have an enemy? Christ told us to love everyone as our neighbor, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. May we all be blessed with all our heart's desire, may Christ always hold us all close to Him, may we all enjoy eternity in peace, in the arms of Almighty God.

The Muslims don't even know who the OPC is, wouldn't recognize them as Christian if they did, and would only ally with them in an effort to destroy Christianity, in order to assist their own puny efforts.

[MarkBsnr]

" If it's not good enough for you, why do you call yourself a Christian?"

Because even she can't keep a straight face when saying Pauliwog.

Oddly, neither can I. I have this vision of Calvin:

[smvoice]

Who says that Catholics are spiritual Israel?

Mark, Catholics say Catholics are spiritual Israel. On post after post. And yet there are posts where Catholics say they are NOT spiritual Israel. You say you aren't. Annalex says you are, if I'm not mistaken. C'mon. We have this argument/disagreement almost weekly. It's the "yes we are, no we aren't of the great debate WITHIN Catholic postings. You guys need to decide which one it is, and let us know.

This is the first response I have to your post. I'll be back with the remainder in a while.

[MarkBsnr]

I went and found the source of that photo, it was just another bunch of garbage, from the “reformers’” trash, I guess they spend entire days rooting around in it.

I know. So did I. I put on my environmental suit, proof against toxins and decay bacteria, and went into that cesspool for a look. We say that the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of (Christian) bishops. I know where the Reformers go...

[Quix]

The old are before they weren’t before they were stuff yet again.

[Natural Law]

"The old are before they weren’t before they were stuff yet again."

They say if you can remember the 60's you weren't really there..........

[MarkBsnr]

Mark, Catholics say Catholics are spiritual Israel. On post after post.

Prove it. We are not replacements for Israel, we are the receivers of the New Covenant. In a way, we might be considered a new Israel, but only from the point of view that God has also extended His Covenant to us - albeit a new one.

It's the "yes we are, no we aren't of the great debate WITHIN Catholic postings. You guys need to decide which one it is, and let us know.

It isn't up to me and it isn't up to Alex. It is up to the Faith of the Church. The Faith says - what? I have offered to take you on a tour of the Catechism, although I'm sure that you look far better than Dante, and I know very well that I couldn't pass for Vergil. I'm taller, for one thing...

This is the first response I have to your post. I'll be back with the remainder in a while.

Please do, and remember me when you have questions, as we previously discussed, rather than post various things at odds with the reality of the Faith....

[MarkBsnr]

The old are before they weren’t before they were stuff yet again.

Do tell.

Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

I think that we finally have reached, Adam.

[Quix]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Now RC rabid clique types are evidently shifting from going to

bureaucratic power-mongering theological magicsterical elites

and

!!!!TRADITIONS!!!! of man and worse

for authoritative

Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling dogma

to the extremely

authoritative--to the MAX--

'They say . . . '

[metmom]

You deny the very concept of Papal infallibility but staunchly defend Mod infallibility without even knowing that the mod and I have discussed the objectionable term and concluded it really wasn't objectionable.

I defend mod infallibility? I think they're infallible? You know that for a fact, do ya?

How?

[MarkBsnr]

I don’t know what your dentist thinks about your teeth (other than the next BMW payment), but your breath - whew...

[smvoice]

LOL!

I appreciate your invitation to tour the Catechism, but what is so strange is that what Catholics believe their Church believes varies from one poster to another. The same thing Catholics accuse Protestants of. This is why there is a necessity of having a final authority on beliefs and teachings. For you it is the Catechism, for us it is the Bible. I don't see how there is ever going to be a bridge built over that gulf.

We are not replacements for Israel, we are the receivers of the New Covenant.

"For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in m covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people." (Heb. 8:8-10).