I don't know that it's not...Do you???
I do. See any pillars supporting it?
Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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Got to get up early tomorrow to start the bird, so I'll keep it short. I don't get this aversion to the idea that God is capable of hate. Did God have hate in Him? That sounds like a trick question to begin with because it implies that there is something wrong with hate. That it is a sin to have. Maybe for us, it is, when it is directed at people whom we cannot see into their hearts. But God can, so he is entitled, no, obligated to hate that which is wrong/evil. Don't you see that is all I'm trying to say here? Scripture says God says he hates certain behaviors. I do not think it is wrong for him to and I do not think it compromises his eternal nature of goodness, holiness, justice and purity. God says he loves certain things us especially, thank God, but also certain behaviors. Because he loves those behaviors it is logical that he would abhor or hate their converse.
Instead of us going back and forth over what I think is not all that big of a deal, why don't you explain to me why you think the Bible would say God hates certain things if he doesn't?
And don't forget the six literal days of Creation...and a 6,000 year old earth. It must be twue, it's in the Bahble.
Oh, I forgot, I also added a cup of apple cider vinegar to the brine. I’ll let you know how it turns out. Have a great holiday!
Thanks, and you as well. Post a pic.
I don't know that it's not...Do you???
I do. See any pillars supporting it?
Thank you, happy Thanksgiving to you too. It should be something we do daily not yearly.
Was that the two step-side step
or the fox trot race away from the issues?
Mosts scholars are "wrong" and you are right? Dream on.
Comments on Galileans sound like the arrogant and contemptous statements of the Pharisees toward their supposed “inferiors” at John, chapter seven.
Ah, so it's a class issue, hey? Galilean fisherman were poor and didn't have time to go to school to learn sophisticated, urban Greek. You are darn right it's a class issue. And pounding the Palestinian dirt while spreading the good news did not exactly lend itself to developing sophisticated knowledge of a foreign language either.
How come you didn't say anything about the author quoting from Septuagint and writing in sophisticated urban Greek, rather than using Hebrew scriptures and plain Aramaic, since he was sent to preach the Gospel to the Jews in Israel?
Events? What events?
Persecutions. None occurred in Peter's lifetime.
I must say, I’ve read all the objections and it’s no wonder I have a low opinion of the higher critics
I'd say you didn't even begin. I think your low opinion of the higher critics matches the arguments you have presented so far.
Please. That laughing donkey is good, but on a hundredth post the thrill is not quite the same.
PRODDYS FEEL THE SAME
about the 1,000th & 10,000th post of the
blasphemous, idolatrous, heretical Marian absurdities.
No, I don't have to believe it; I know they do. That can be demonstrated on demand. It's observable and demonstrable. There is also a strong and conclusive indirect evidence for them.
Unlike religion, which relies on miracles, science works on demand, because it is a working model, not a hopeful model.
SFA, boatbums told you why: because the Bible says so! It doesn't matter that the Greek word for hate has been used throughout the Bible to mean love less, and not really hate, etc.
Boatbums, do you also believe—because it's in the Bible—the world rests on pillars because God placed the world on them? (1 Sam 2:8; Ps 75:3)?
But there is a problem with that, even if it "feels right" that God should hate evil. If God pre-existed creation than he pre-existed the evil. But when evil appeared in his created beings (angles and men) as a result of their free will, he somehow became obligated to hate sin? If God is "obligated" then he is not perfect. If God didn't have hate in him but acquired it as a consequence of his own creation, then he is not unchanging. And if God knew evil before evil came into the world, then he is the author of evil.
Well now that is very interesting indeed. So why would the catholic church call Mary the Queen of Heaven? Does make one wonder then where the idea of "venerating" Mary is rooted. Thanks...very interesting.
Sure.... Let's see how that would work out.
Proverbs 6:16 "There are six things the LORD hates loves less, seven that are detestable less loved to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community."
John 15:18 "If the world hate you loves you less, ye know that it hated me loved me less before it hated you loved you less."
Isaiah 61:8 "For I the LORD love judgment, I hate love less robbery for burnt offering;"
Amos 5:21 "I hate love less, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies."
Zechariah 8:17 "And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate love less, saith the LORD."
Proverbs 8:13 "The fear of the LORD is to hate love less evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate love less."
Ummm, sure that'll work. /sarc
“No, I don’t have to believe it; I know they do.”
You see what shallow knowledge does? Any half witted high school physics teacher could explain that electrons DO NOT “orbit” atoms at all and the tidy little picture of moon like things going around an atom is a useful way of thinking about them but is manifestly not so.
So what you think you know just isn’t so, it’s a convention used to simplify reality since an “orbit” is just an area where an electron has a mathematical probability of being found.
Is it then wrong to say electrons “orbit” an atom? Of course not if one keeps in mind what is really being said.
Four pillars supporting the earth? Orbits? Six of one, half dozen of the other.
I gave you examples of verses where hate is not hate, such as with Rachel and Leah, or when Jesus says if anyone doesn't hate his father and mother...where loves less is perfectly appropriate meaning of the same word, and I also reminded you that when God really hates something he destroys it, such as the Flood , or the Pharaoh, or the people of Canaan, and other isral's enemies, or Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.
Makes you wonder why sin is s till around...
Depends how you look at the electron, as a wave or as a particle. Electormagnetic radiation behaves as both. But I wouldn't expect adults who are more like six-year olds to know that. Electrons can be "stripped" and they can "bounce" off of a desingated target in predicatble geometric fashion, just like a particle would,no different then light does, following simple deifned by Snell's law. At the same time, they will exhibit all the characteristics of a wave as evidenced by refraction effects.
But thanks for your "lesson". Just don't let it go to your head.
Orbits? LOL. No, literal pillars God supposedly placed the earth on to 'rest', and when he gets angry he shakes the pillars that makes the earth trmeble, i.e. earthquake (Job 9:6). Do you believe that? It's in the Bible.
“How come you didn’t say anything about the author quoting from Septuagint and writing in sophisticated urban Greek, rather than using Hebrew scriptures and plain Aramaic, since he was sent to preach the Gospel to the Jews in Israel?”
and that restriction ended didn’t it?
Because your whole line of argument is fallacious and you state things you don’t know as fact like,
“Galilean fisherman were poor and didn’t have time to go to school to learn sophisticated, urban Greek.”
How would you know anything about Peter’s early life, or know anything about what a Galilean fisherman might or might not know or what Peter’s writing style is except from what he wrote but you bang on as if you did.
How do you know anything of Peter’s life except what the Scriptures tell you?
My whole line of argument is fallacious? LOL. And I state things I don't know as fact? How do you know what I don't know? But coming from a believer is a little over the top?
Of course you offer no evidence, only accusations. It's late, go to bed old man. Your tone is getting nastier by the minute and I am about to break off this because you are flaming because that's all that seems to be left in your arsenal.
As for Palestinian fishermen, like farmer, read up a little history. They lived off of what they caught and sending kids to school, when they needed everyone's help, was low on the priority list. Two thousand years ago, most of the world, even the well off, were illiterate or only partially literate, but certainly no fishermen, or even a noble, was an urbane, sophisticated Greek writer, espeiclaly those born in an Aramaic-speaking community and all they did, besides fishing, was to pound Palestinian dusty roads spreading the good news in Israel. I doubt they were taking Greek composition classes at night. LOL.
But I am tired of your insults, and lack of substance; it's becoming predictable when you run out of arguments. You are off my list until/if ever you learn how to communicate in a civil fashion.
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