Well, even if that were a problem, it couldn't get much worse than this ....
Having one pope for everyone is no guarantee that error isn't creeping in. It just means that lots of people get lead astray all at once.
Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
So, mas, would you drink the bitter koolaid? Or would you rather not answer?
I can't shout over the voices of your own personal magisterium in your head.
Can I imagine? I’m spared that labor by an examination of the old pagan Roman religion with its myths and superstitions and idol worship now dressed in the robes of Roman Catholicism even as Catholic scholars admit.
lol...I know. We don’t have to imagine. All we have to do is look around us.
How would a Catholic answer this? To say "NO" would be to reject your whole religious system. To say "YES" would be to place your religious system in the same category as cults, where members follow blindly whatever their "leader" says. Because they believe he is speaking on behalf of God and he alone has the way to heaven.
Quite the conundrum. Unless spiritual eyes are opened with the truth.
What are you talking about? What bitter koolaid? Was my previous post unclear?
I've been wondering about this lately..say (worst case scenario, I know) that the Pope came out next Sunday and spoke ex-cathedra: "God has shown me that we must leave this earthly life now. It is time to drink the bitter koolaid." ANd then he turns and walks back into the Vatican. What would RCCs do? Just how much faith do they have in their pope, infallibility, traditions, doctrines, etc., really? Would they do as he said or would they walk/run away? Just HOW MUCH FAITH DO they have in Rome.
Well some folks are willing to follow the pope right into hell if that is where he leads
There, fixed it for you.
...so...you wouldn’t follow his directive? And while I’m asking, what is “contradiction” when new “infallible” decrees are given? What was once wrong, could be right..BTW, what is “extensive proof text”? Proof from doctrines, traditions, the word of God?
So when was there an infallible teaching that God would not call the entire church home at one time?
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The problem is this..IF Catholic doctrine were to be true, that salvation is based on being baptized, keeping the law and doing good works ..it would not keep protestants out of heaven ... However if the Rc is wrong and the reformation correct, GOOD catholics, that follow the church and her teachings would go to hell, because they have refused to come in Faith to Christ and choose instead to trust in themselves, their works and the church
How sad, when Christ promised us HIS yoke is easy, that we can rest in Him..that He is the author and finisher of our faith.
Men need to repent their self sufficiency and pride and come to the cross of Christ to be saved.
That is a great rendition I loved it thanks
Here is a number 2, I sing to myself all the time, and plan to have both sung at my funeral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR8rlTIU8_Y&feature=related
I am saying your entire scenario is absurd. Suicide is against the fifth commandment. No pope or anyone else can order a Catholic to commit sin.
So when was there an infallible teaching that God would not call the entire church home at one time?
Infallible teaching from the creeds says that Christ will come at the End to "judge the living and the dead." That means a last generation remnant will still be living when the sheep are separated from the goats.
So we're not cookie cutter Christians. Big deal. We all agree on the fact that salvation is through faith in Christ alone. That's all that's needed for God to declare us righteous.
1 Corinthians 12:4-30
4Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; 6and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.
7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. One Body with Many Members
12For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body— Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
14For the body does not consist of one member but of many. 15If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? 18But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. 19If all were a single member, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.
21The eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you." 22On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty, 24which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it, 25that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. 26If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.
27Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 28And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the higher gifts.
Well, even if that were a problem, it couldn't get much worse than this ....
Having one pope for everyone is no guarantee that error isn't creeping in. It just means that lots of people get lead astray all at once.
They do not understand MM..
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