Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
I don't see how not having sexual relations with your husband after giving birth stands as proof that you didn't have sexual relations prior to giving birth. Was Joseph said to be "blessed above all men"? Did Joseph experience this same "making sex superfluous" intimacy with God that Mary did? The only "proof" that Mary could offer of the virgin birth, beyond her own testimony, was the testimony of her husband Joseph's non-involvement in the matter nine months prior to the birth.
What "incontrovertible evidence" could you possibly mean? How does one do that in first century Jerusalem, practically speaking? Did she parade around without pants for the next thirty-three years? Did she make regular visits to her OB-GYN, and nail the up-to-date examination results to the Temple's Western Wall so all could see? How does your "incontrovertible evidence" not have Mary willfully and repeatedly violating Leviticus 18:6-14 for any and all seekers?
REMINDER: All that is not of God burns. Catechism, Catholic tradition/teachings burn. Nothing left to stand on for the RCC pawns.
Catholic posts here are laughable and I believe meant to be laughed at. No one with an ounce of intelligence can take such nonsense as serious because it’s not meant to be serious. Deception knows no bounds.
That could be why poor annalex has been left to fend for himself.
Looks like all the other Catholics have bailed.
I think you are right on!
Making the behavior even more bizarre to the point of being intentionally self destructive.
"St. Paul taught the Thessalonians Jewish law?"
Absolutely. You must read Acts 17:10-13
Paul went before the Bereans and was delighted to see that they "searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether [the things that Paul taught] were so." He found them "more fair-minded than the Thessalonicans". So what we see here is that Paul would have the Thessalonicans to understand Jewish law so that they could confirm the truth that Paul was teaching.
John 5:39"You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me."
So our LORD said that the Jewish Law was all about Him, and in Him is eternal life. So of course Paul would encourage the people to read Scriptures.
Lets return to that passage you brought up earlier about "All Scripture being profitable for doctrine...", particularly the language preceding that summary statement.
2 Tim 3:13-15 "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Again, Paul exorts Timothy to know the Scriptures - that is, the OT, aka "Jewish Law" since the gospels had yet to be written and passed around.
It seems to me is that you are making a distinction between 'παραδόεις' and 'πατρικαι παραδόεις'. Which is fine, because I would like to see how you harmonize your personal defintion with how its used in Galatians 1:14.
If you make a distinction betweeen the two by assigning the use I offered to 'πατρικαι παραδόεις' then you are back to the bigger problem of refining your "Traditions" so that they are only a function of emulating the Apostles, which is what is left when you start parsing words.
The thing is, you being part of the Rome should know that as part of the fruit of Vatican II you have Dei Verbum that has a different definition than yours for Holy Tradition. Quite frankly its even quite different from the early Church fathers Irenaeus and Tertullian. The fundamental weak spot that holds the whole concept together is the flawed idea that Sacred Tradition "remains always steadfast in the teaching of the Apostles". In Dei Verbatum (n.10), the council decided that this is really limited to "common life, in the breaking of bread and in prayers". I don't see room in there for Holy Tradition to declare by fiat that Mary died a virgin. That is Vatican II speaking to you, not me. So who is correct? V2 or its predecessors? And if they differ, what does do to the "remain steadfast in the teaching of the Apostles"? A contradiction can't "remain steadfast".
I'm sure that many of you with but an ounce do struggle, but fortunately those with merely average intelligence have no problem.
Are you making this post about me?
I’ve come to the conclusion they’ve been deliberately deceived. The question is: WHY?
Great question.
How many of you are there? Unless there are more than a few of you I must have been using the plural "you".
Discuss the issues, not me.
Don't flatter yourself. I made a comment about a group of people identified by you as having an "ounce of brains". You can claim membership in that group, but it didn't come from me.
No way. No thinking person could believe half the stuff that some post. Some of the stuff they throw out is to see what sticks, it’s over and beyond nonsense - they don’t have answers so they make up nonsense. Deception breeds deception and it’s taken them over.
GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT!
Sorry I'm all out of troll food. No food fights tonight.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
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