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To: MHGinTN

You have a fascinating way of covering your eyes and ears so the truth will not get into that darkness you prefer. But, alas, you will not deter those who have been sent to warm you of destruction. Perhaps, if you ever read one of the posts asking you to think about the massive contradictions in Mormonism and the bordering on obscene description of the jesus of Mormonism, you will accidentally open your eyes and light will stream in, even for an instant.

For lurkers—because Norm has assured us he not only doesn’t read what is posted if it opposes his cult, he refuses to read a word of it lest he awaken to the heresies of Mormonism—for lurkers like soloson who claims Roman Catholicism, below are the characteristics of the Mormon jesus. See if these characteristics are the ones which fit the Jesus of the Bible, the Jesus you would trust as Svior of your immortal soul:

Mormons believe Jesus was married at the marriage feast in Cana where He changed water into wine

Mormons believe that the Momron jesus was married to more than one woman

The Mormon jesus was persecuted because he was a polygamist.

The Mormon jesus came into existence when his father in heaven created him along with his brothers and sisters, as a spirit being who was not yet a god.

Momrons believe Lucifer was one of the Mormon jesus’s brothers, before the Mormon jesus became a man and later a god.

The Mormon jesus is one individual god in a troika of gods which includes the Mormon jesus’s father—who was once a man and inhabits a body of flesh and bones and through goodness gained the attributes of godhood when he was selected by a council of gods to be the god of earth—and the never to receive a fleshly body holy spirit.

The Mormon jesus can save you, after all that you can do to be worthy of the grace of the Mormon godhead—which is, again, a troika of three gods working for a common purpose.

Mormons believe their jesus can save a person who rejected Him while in their body, by accepting a proxy baptism for them performed in a Mormon Temple by a Temple worthy Mormon.

The Mormon jesus gained the attributes of godhood through the life he lived in the flesh, which gained for that jesus exaltation.

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Every one of that list of the Mormon jesus characteristics is based upon the teachings from Mormon leaders who are attested as true by Mormons, for if they do not swear they attest to these teachers’ characterizations then they have no temple recommend!

When a Mormon (like Normandy or Resty or Saundra Duffy or Killer medic or Paragon Defender or Stourme or Delphi User or misses bush or lady lawyer) accuses me or any other ‘Flying Inman’ who opposes those heresies of lying about their religious beliefs, we post the actual quotes of the teachers who said these things about the jesus Mormons are trusting to save them after all that they can do. And when one of these comes to make a vague accusation because of this post, I will list the quotes as they have been listed throughout this thread and others for days now.


YAWN

SAME
OLD
NON
ISSUES
AND
TWISTED/
MISREPRESENTATION
PROPAGANDA
ADDRESSED
A
THOUSAND
TIMES


827 posted on 10/20/2010 3:46:50 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Undecided readers,

As an ex Mormon-basher, I invite everyone to read all of the multitude of Anti-Mormon attack threads and/or comments on this board and then do some research on your own from more than one side of the “issues”.

Is what all these Mormon attack squad people parrot day in and and day out on these boards true? Don’t take their word for it. Find out for yourself. Put forth some effort. You do want the truth right? Prove it.

Read both sides! Talk to both sides! Not just mine. Not just theirs. Make up your own mind.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. The vast majority of the issues brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ I have found but here’s more.

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/


828 posted on 10/20/2010 3:48:34 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Oh really? And which of the quotes from your founders and teachers posted in @755 would you like to refute. I know, I know, you cannot waste your time substantiating your specious claims, just try to sow doubt of the authenticity. Here's the money quptes again, just for you, PD. Have you read any of them?

And heeeeere's the proof quotes:

"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82).

"There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 259).

"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).

"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346).

"One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that great loved Jesus, such as Mary and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them and associated with the much; and when he arose from the dead, instead of first showing himself to his chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them--namely, Mary Magdalene. Now, it would be very natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were his wives." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 159)

829 posted on 10/20/2010 3:57:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Paragon Defender
 
TWISTED/
MISREPRESENTATION
PROPAGANDA




 
Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. (1805 - 1844):


“My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join.
 
 No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.”

“I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ‘they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.’”

“He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time.
 
When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven.
 
 When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home.
And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was.
 
I replied, ‘Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.’
 I then said to my mother, ‘I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.’
 
It seems as though the adversary was aware, at a very early period of my life, that I was destined to prove a disturber and an annoyer of his kingdom; else why should the powers of darkness combine against me?

- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Joseph Smith–History, v. 1, pp. 8–26

921 posted on 10/21/2010 5:59:15 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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