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OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN (Say the Rosary) [Ecumenical]
EWTN.com ^ | October 2001 Soul Magazine | Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director

Posted on 10/07/2010 5:51:01 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: ConorMacNessa

**Our Lady of Victory be invoked at my funeral Mass.**

Wonderful invocation!


21 posted on 10/07/2010 7:15:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Judith Anne

Iranian sources on some of them. Go figure!


22 posted on 10/07/2010 7:16:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Other people seem to have picked up other tidbits to post on, however.

It's not hard to see why. Islam is out to destroy anyone that isn't in their cult. They do not recognize God and Jesus is just an ordinary man. Christianity has NOTHING in common with Islam. There was a reason Pope Benedict XIV chose the quote he did.

What is the point of posting a 9 year old article unless it is to incite more hostility?

23 posted on 10/07/2010 7:35:04 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: Jaded

**Islam is out to destroy anyone that isn’t in their cult. **

That’s the whole point. Say the Rosary without ceasing. It is our only hope.


24 posted on 10/07/2010 7:39:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jaded

There are certain situations of spiritual bondage and patterns of sin that, by a mysterious disposition of God’s providence, are broken only by perseverance in the humble prayer of the Rosary.


25 posted on 10/07/2010 7:53:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Rosary and “ecumenical”?


26 posted on 10/07/2010 8:01:40 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("evangelicals don't know Torah well enough to be theonomists." --D. G. Hart)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator

DEAR RM,

I just noticed after posting #27 that this is an Ecumenical thread.

I don’t recall what the parameters are for that category.

If this post is amiss on such a thread, by all means, please, delete it and I’ll post it elsewhere.


28 posted on 10/08/2010 1:15:56 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator; Alex Murphy

Actually, rereading the Original Post,

I’m skeptical that the Ecumenical category is fitting.

There’s plenty of antagonistic assertions in the original post to disallow it, imho.

At least provocative to the max.


29 posted on 10/08/2010 1:54:27 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

There is one line you might have a point on: “The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary.” But the guidelines seem to permit it.


30 posted on 10/08/2010 7:33:02 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus; Religion Moderator

The RM’s opinion will be fine with me, either way.


31 posted on 10/08/2010 7:39:15 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alex Murphy; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Thanks, Alex.

Mind bogglingly incredible.

How can anyone, much less a vast INSTITUTION FULL of people expect sane out-group folks to believe such unmitigated nonsense. Sometimes they sound as loopy and demonized as the Muslims.

Oh, right—OUT-GROUP means those not in the INSTITUTION & thereby not in the IN-GROUP are beyond the pale in RC’s eyes.

I’ll take my chances with JESUS AND THE TRUTH out here any day.


32 posted on 10/08/2010 8:25:51 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Antagonism is not allowed on Religion Forum threads labeled "ecumenical." Words and images that provoke hostility in others are considered antagonistic.

Your post 27 was removed as antagonistic.

33 posted on 10/08/2010 8:35:15 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry for the bother and my not noting the category of the thread before responding.

Thx.


34 posted on 10/08/2010 9:19:45 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Salvation
Very interesting! But we can not compromise our own faith. I have read this hope of conversion thru Fatima. Then read totally preposterous assumptions.

This could also be part of the great delusion. Just let God do it. If that is what God wants it will be full conversion in Jesus who became Man from Divinity. Which will be proclaimed by true believers( 1 John 4). Not wishful thinking.

Remember in the book of Revelation believers are martyred by beheadings. Only Muslim countries still do this awful practice. It fits for the end time prophecies. Beware! Heaven help us!

35 posted on 10/08/2010 9:48:15 AM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Please note post 33 above. Thank you.


37 posted on 10/08/2010 10:13:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Salvation
Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!

It is interesting that the "crescent" is also the symbol for Islam and that America's Shrine to Our Lady has an Islamic name.

While America doesn't have a shrine to the lady of Guadalupe, certain American religions may have a shrine...

And while this lady may be a religious bond that exists between the Catholic religion and the muzlim religion, Jesus Christ is the bond between Christians and muzlims...

Many muzlims thru out the world have and do come to Jesus Christ and become Christians, forsaking the muzlim religion, the Koran and any notion that the fatima story has any validity at all...Praise God...

38 posted on 10/08/2010 12:03:00 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Alex Murphy
The post you just linked to links to a post quoting the actual article from Zenit. The Zenit article cites Iranian TV as saying that Our Lady of Fatima is Mad Mo's daughter.

That's not a Catholic news agency saying it, that's a Catholic news agency pointing out that a bunch of Shia Muslim moonbats said it.

Please make a note of it, so you don't make this ridiculous mistake again.

39 posted on 10/08/2010 4:48:25 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Alex Murphy
ISLAM CO-OPTING FATIMA
Iranian TV: Our Lady of Fatima is Really Fatima, Daughter of the Prophet Mohammed

VATICAN CITY, MAY 13 (ZENIT) - On October 23, 1995, Iranian television began running stories that the apparitions in Fatima, Portugal in 1917 were religious phenomena of Muslim origin.

Growing Muslim interest in the holy site is sparked by the Portuguese town's name: Fatima, which is Arabic. Portugal and Spain were both once under Islamic rule, and are the only such countries to ever break free from such a government.

According to historical accounts, in 1156 a battle was fought between Christian and Muslim forces in the locality. A Christian knight saved a young girl named Fatma (Fatima) from the dangers of the pitched battle. Later she converted to Christianity and married the knight, only to die shortly afterwards. In grief, the knight became a monk and the town was renamed Fatima in her honor.

According to Iranian Television, the woman who appeared to the three shepherd children in 1917 was not the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus, but Fatima, the daughter of the prophet Mohammed, founder of Islam. Her message was reported to be "I am Fatima, daughter of the Prophet of Islam." This television report has helped launch the growing waves of Muslim pilgrims who have been visiting this Christian site in Portugal in recent years.

Catholics, on the other hand, say that the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to the three shepherd children. She told them to pray, especially encouraging the prayer of the Rosary. Lucía, the only surviving recipient of the vision, was entrusted with three "secrets," of which the third has never been made public. She recently assured that the third secret was never intended for general proclamation. Pope John Paul II has had a strong devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, especially since the failed assassination attempt of Ali Agca, which occurred precisely on May 13, 1991, the anniversary of the first vision at Fatima (May 13, 1917). ZA980513-3

This would seem to be pretty straightforward, especially since it says quite clearly what Catholics believe. Claiming without qualification that a Catholic news agency says O.L. of Fatima is Mad Mo's daughter is a bit like claiming that the Bible says, "There is no God".
40 posted on 10/08/2010 4:57:10 PM PDT by Campion
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