The Early Church Fathers are almost unanimous in the assertion that the birth was painless and had no loss of Mary’s virginal integrity during the birth. In other words, her Hymen didn’t break. St. Augustine said “Jesus passed through the womb of Mary as a ray of sun passes through glass.” Pope Martin in 649 AD defined the doctrine that Mary:
The early Church Fathers argues a lot of very absurd things.This ranks with how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. It has nothing to do with anything . Many of these early Church Fathers lost themselves in matters and arguements that took them into areas that had nothing to do with the spiritual nature of things.
And the more proficient dancers got to wear robes, if not, they became really good used car salesmen or politicians. LOL.
Good point.
“ALMOST UNANIMOUS”
. . . the early ‘fathers’ were all over the water front on many things—like the RCC has been it’s 1600 years of existence.
The Early Church Fathers were all men who had no idea what childbirth was like...
The question about angels on the head of a pin is NOT ridiculous. This is a canard by post Scholastics. It is not a question of angelology but of geometry and infinitessimals. Scholastics had a wit too, y'know. One of Satan's triumphs is to have used academia and the culture to lead everyone to think that they just know, without looking into it, that all Scholastics were dry as dust, joyless, wizened old men arguing in cumbersome vocabularies about microscopic points of abstract logic. The idea that Aquinas could crack jokes about his own not inconsiderable size just escapes their awareness because it does not fit with the prejudice.
The question, posed without scholastic wit, is "How many points are there in even the smallest conceivable area?"
The answer is left as an exercise for the reader.