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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I can never win
and I have nothing to prove a single claim!


Well you finally got something right. I can never win. But not for the reason you think. I know I can never win because arguing with anti-Mormons with their arsenal of regurgitated propaganda is pointless. Neither side can win. Been there and done that and from your side. So I choose not to play.

I do however give you all you need to open your eyes. Take the blinders off. Don’t take the easy way, take the truthful way. Someone on here called me a coward. They have it a bit backwards I am afraid.

I have given you all you need. It is your choice. Plain and simple.


167 posted on 10/05/2010 7:33:35 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Ah, propganada ... like the footnote quotes from your Mormon leadership!

Footnotes

1. "We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).
"Some people are troubled over the statements of the Prophet Joseph Smith.... The matter that seems such a mystery is the statement that our Father in heaven at one time passed through a life and death and is an exalted man. This is one of the mysteries.... The Prophet taught that our Father had a Father and so on. Is not this a reasonable thought, especially when we remember that the promises are made to us that we may become like him?" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.10, 12).

2."Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82).
"There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 259).
"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).
"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346). "One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that great loved Jesus, such as Mary and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them and associated with the much; and when he arose from the dead, instead of first showing himself to his chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them--namely, Mary Magdalene. Now, it would be very natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were his wives." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 159).

I still can't quite figure out how posting the actual quotes of your religion's leadership, showing the peculiar nature of your Mormon DOCTRINE is propaganda. But then I don't belong to the cult, so I have no hive ears with which to hear the buzz, skippy.

173 posted on 10/05/2010 7:52:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Morg, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Paragon Defender
...Mormons with their arsenal of regurgitated propaganda...


224 posted on 10/06/2010 7:49:40 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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