The context of everythign said by Christ and others is well known, it encompasses the entire Bible which has to be taken as a whole even when considering a single verse
Ah yes the old
bandwagon fallacy, we all know that Sam is a murderer, why do we have to wait for the formality of a trial? (If you are Sam, and are innocent, you want that trial, if you are the real murderer, you don't want Sam to have a trial.)
Then you blather on about what Jesus meant when he was speaking... You are not him.
There is a huge difference between calling your brother a fool (so you don't have to listen to him) and disagreeing (politely) with what he has to say. The mere fact that you are equating the two means you are not serious about the discussion, but are merely a bomb thrower intent on blowing up the discussion.
Then you end with this little Jem:
Ironically the same courtesy is extend to you in many ways, for you bring us many questionable words and ideas. For all I know you may well be a Baptist playing the devil's advocate, but all we have to go on is what you say how you represent yourself and what you say you stand for, which is clearly in contradiction to the words of Christ. If that is taken personally, perhaps saying nothing is better, for as long as one tries to run counter to the body of Christ and lead men astray the fight will be joined...
If there is courtesy being extended to me here by the anti crowd, then I missed it.
I am quoting directly from the Bible, so my words cannot be in contradiction with Christianity, they are merely in contradiction with the DOGMA of the "Orthodox Christianity" which is on purpose..
The only thing I object to is a summary dismissal without examining the evidence and without a prayer of truth being revealed (pun intended)
Anti's tend to name call, declare victory, damn us to hell, impugn character, and many other techniques designed to end the debate without a fair hearing of the evidence which of necessity will be on both sides.
Thus antis typically do not want a fair trail, they want a lynching.
Jesus is my judge, and I demand a trial before him, and I am to be presumed innocent until found guilty by him. Anything else is usurping his authority and position as my judge and savior. Anything else is to act in Christs stead. anything else is to border on being an anti-Christ.
Good night and God bless.
You sure love that bandwagon fallacy bit, so much so you use it when it doesn't even fit...
No I am not Jesus, Jesus is Jesus, and his spoken words are in the Bible. Sure you have heard of it. It is all there for people to see and understand both in word and context since the writers did a fairly good job of setting the various stages and condition about to who and about whom he was speaking. No real stretch no need to have any divine powers, just decent reading abilities and a rational honest and straightforward mind.
And again you miss the “calling your brother a fool” point. No one that I see is disagreeing with the fact the Bible tells us not to call our brother a fool. The point of contention is whether one is addressing a bother with that term or someone else. That should be a very simple and rational point to grasp when one is be forthright and not trying to “confuse” the issue.
Not that anyone of the LDS persuasion would do that of course...
And please, you and your peers just stop (not that you will, against SOP) with the “The only thing I object to is a summary dismissal without examining the evidence and without a prayer of truth being revealed” type razzmatazz. You and yours have been told repeatedly that all of us, especially the former Mormons, have been very familiar with the “evidence” and such, from the “testimonies" about non existent places and things” to the “archaeological evidence” to the DNA and yes even prayer, and know beyond a shadow of a doubt spiritually and logically that it is all a con.
As far as extended courtesy, even with you arrogance out right misrepresentations of Christian ideas and the Savior himself as well as purposful misdirection and game playing we all try, to a very great extent, to engage you openly and as straightforward as possible given the subject, ask you questions (that you often ignore or obfuscate on) and respond to your question candidly with all the facts one can bear. So if you think playing the victim works for you great, it's LDS SOP anyways so you are following procedure and tradition. But that is even starting to wear a little thin with the masses, the digital age and all I guess.