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To: annalex; Markos33; RnMomof7; metmom; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; wmfights; Forest Keeper; TSgt; ...
It was inevitable that the Protestant energy that created America’s greatness would be spent at some point, and now it has...

...we Catholics all of a sudden are at the forefront of the struggle, as one authentic Christian Church that is not going to quietly dissolve into irrelevance like the Protestants did. Future America is either Catholic or barbaric.

No wonder a majority of Roman Catholics voted for Obama. They want illegal immigration from our southern borders to continue to further swell the ranks of Roman Catholics on welfare.

It can be argued that as Roman Catholic influence has increased in this country, this country has devolved into secularism, apostasy, licentiousness and moral ambivalence.

Temperance was a Protestant societal goal which was overthrown by Italian mob and Irish liquor industry special interests.

From 1930 to 1968 the Hays office in Hollywood wrote and enforced the Motion Picture Production Code which set industry censorship guidelines that governed the production of U.S. motion pictures released by major studios. This code was created by Will H. Hays, a Presbyterian. The Hays office was closed in 1968 by Jack Valenti, a Roman Catholic who came to Hollywood from Washington DC in 1966 to head the MPAA.

When we wonder why movies stink as much as they do, in great part we have Jack Valenti to thank for it.

So, Annalex, you can long for a return to the Inquisition all you want, as your earlier post told us. Americans can be thankful that even though the PR from Rome says one thing, the facts are quite another...

CATHOLIC TRADITION FADING IN U.S.
Evangelicals now outnumber Catholics
(although Protestants have always outnumbered RCs in this country)

14 posted on 09/20/2010 12:18:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What with the Catholic propensity to vote democratic, this Catholic influence in politics does not bode well for our country.


15 posted on 09/20/2010 5:38:30 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Markos33; RnMomof7; metmom; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; wmfights; Forest Keeper; TSgt
Why you and I are saying the same thing as regards America's prospering under Protestantism. So long as Protestantism had the energy to move things, things were moving well.

But because Protestantism is a heretical sect, its energy is limited, because the Holy Spirit is not replenishing it.

Protestantism always catered to the caprice of the times, and by now that is all it does: an attempt to make the bourgeois feel good about himself. This is not a recipe for success, and not suprisingly the Protestant-lead America no longer is either Protestant or successful.

With you, I pray that Catholicism in America rids itself from the political left that for a while got the upper hand at the Vatican II. This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation.

But I am an optimist. Whatever happens on the political scene, it is the holiness and integrity of the Catholic Church that matters. For that, we have the guarantee from the owner:

[25] ...Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: [26] That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish (Eph. 5)

the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire (Mt. 3:12)

Thank you for paying attention to my posts.

16 posted on 09/20/2010 6:05:31 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Jack Valenti was always a globalist stooge, imho.


20 posted on 09/20/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"This code was created by Will H. Hays, a Presbyterian."

For us to believe that all Presbyterians are of like mind you will have to explain why there were so many different types, denominations, varieties and schisms. If you can manage that you can then tell us why all Catholics are of like mind.

80 posted on 09/20/2010 9:48:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I can’t imagine why a majority of Catholics voted for Obama. The priest at my local parish repeatedly insisted that supporting candidate Obama (or any of his fellow Democrats or Rudolph W. Giuliani [after his pro-abortion stance became irrefutably clear]) in any way—via campaign contributions, volunteer time, ideological compatibility, speech or argumentation, votes at the ballot box, or any other form of material support—constitutes a mortal sin. If not confessed, mortal sin leads to HELL.

Now, I know that many Catholics didn’t get that same message in Mass, but there’s always Evangelium vitae (John Paul II, 1995-03-25) for your reading pleasure. Still, I concede that even some Mass-going Catholics likely lack the information (regarding either Faith or politics or both) necessary to understand the error and horror that the Democratic Party presents to the vitality of the American people, especially the most vulnerable.

But the Catholics who voted for Obama largely are self-identified “Catholics” who lack any connection to the Church beyond a “checkbox” identity. These people don’t go to Mass every Sunday (or the vigil Mass on Saturday evening) or even most Sundays, and they generally lack “grave reason” (e.g., living in a remote area without Catholic Churches, comatose or unconscious, amid emergency surgery, on intelligence missions or military expeditions).

Worse still, the children of these “checkbox Catholics,” who seemingly only acknowledge their putative Catholicism when checking boxes in a survey, fail to get the importance of the Faith that their parents fail (or, increasingly, parent fails) to live in everyday life. If a parent never or almost never attends Mass and doesn’t take God or the Church or His commandments seriously or even acknowledge them more frequently than rarely in the presence of her or his children, then the children fail to grasp the real importance of God from the parent, whatever her or his other faults.

Because of this trend of Catholics fleeing from the Faith, a comparable trend not absent in Protestant circles, the populous loses its connection to and dependence on God with every successive generation and devolves into atheism. These burgeoning numbers of passive, effective, or active atheists and quasi-atheists actively seek God—the longing of every human heart—and create a veritable quasi-deity of their own in big government in an ineffective substitute for the One True God.


87 posted on 09/20/2010 10:29:52 PM PDT by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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