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To: blasater1960

**You will see that it refers to King Hezekiah**

So Isaiah 9:6 has Hezekiah being referred to as ..’The mighty God’, The everlasting Father,.. (seems accurate when compared to my Hebrew dictionary). Looked your site and consider ‘has been born’ to not make any difference, since with God his plan for the furure is as good as done.

Then Hezekiah made Isaiah a liar in the next verse, where there was to be no end to his government. First, the king shows off the riches in his dominion to potential enemies. Then his son, and his grandsons lose it the government completely, becoming puppets of the conquerers, until the mooslims completely drive them out centuries later.

Now really! That can’t be Hezekiah or anybody else that is subject to the sinful nature of fallen man. It can only be Messiah.

Those prophets move in and out of prophesy and the present tense all through their books.

The wife kept me out late, only gonna get about 5 hrs sleep. I’ll be back tomorrow eve. Good nite!


81 posted on 09/06/2010 8:38:19 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel
So Isaiah 9:6 has Hezekiah being referred to as ..’The mighty God’, The everlasting Father,.. (seems accurate when compared to my Hebrew dictionary). Looked your site and consider ‘has been born’ to not make any difference, since with God his plan for the furure is as good as done.

You have to read the whole thing. It is much more than "has been born vs is born". Also, if you read chapter 9 and 10, they use very similar language in talking about G-ds intervention on behalf of Hezekiah.

Then Hezekiah made Isaiah a liar in the next verse, where there was to be no end to his government. First, the king shows off the riches in his dominion to potential enemies. Then his son, and his grandsons lose it the government completely, becoming puppets of the conquerers, until the mooslims completely drive them out centuries later.

Not at all. His government, the throne of David is forever. Even Christians acknowlege that as they falsely claim Jesus in that role. Even though his direct decendents blew it and the Jewish people went into exile, that was prophesied and by no means meant the end of the Davidic line. The Jewish Messiah will be of the tribe of Judah, through Solomon to David. Something Jesus was not.

Also, Jesus was not the Everlasting Father. He is considered the Son, so that doesnt fit. The government never rested on his shoulders, so that doesnt fit, nor was he ever annointed per the Torahs instructions, so he wasnt a messiah (annointed one), He wasnt the Prince of Peace, since there has never been peace since he was here and Jesus himself said he did not come to bring peace but a sword. He wasnt a Mighty God, he died after a mere 3 years of ministry with the Roman empire still firmly in control. Nor was he a wonderful councelor, the disciples were always confused about his mission right up to the end. So on every count, Jesus failed.

Here is another view of Isaiah 9: Isaiah 9

82 posted on 09/07/2010 4:04:38 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah is attainable past, present and forever.)
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