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To: Colofornian; Invictus; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; colorcountry; Elsie; SZonian; Zakeet; ...
Chime in? LOL, how about I wade in with hip waders on, if the forces attacking Freerepublic today will allow the posting.

There is a fundamental contradiction in the Beckian renewal which I have no doubt the progressives will exploit to crumble the conservative renewal. Allow me to elaborate because this is a very subtle yet devastating contradiction.

The fundamental premise to Mormonism is that ALL of Christianity was in 100% apostasy until the advent of Joseph Smith and his 'restoration of true Christianity'. Yet Beck is touting to the max the Christian founding principles of this antion and the founders. Unfortunately for Glenn Beck, Mormonism wasn't invented until ~1830, so the Christianity of the Founders that Mister Beck touts was an apostasy according to the religion he so strongly believes in!

This contradiction is so glaring once one delves into it that the foundations of Beck's rally are in question. So, what might be the motivation for a rally which is founded in a contradiction for the man who brought it to fruition? I have three possible theories, but have not settled upon which is the most likely cause du jour.

One aspect of Beck's rally that continues to disturb me is the inclusion of an Islamic Imam in the Black Robed Brigade! If one knows whom were the original Black Robed Regiment, and is aware of Beck's own emphasis of their importance to the Christian principles reflected in the founders' documents which established this nation, then to include an Imam of Islam (which reveres taqiyya when dealing with what Islam calls infidels, and that's all who are not Islamic) in this Christian lookalike brigade is to at once sully the principle behind the original regiment!

Islam is a far cry from Christian. In fact, the vast majority of Imams today are the product of madrassas funded by the Saudis and preaching the 'violence if need be' conversion of the whole world to Islam as a Wahhabi manifest destiny! Beck spent the better part of a week recently deriding manifest destiny as an evil opposite to Divine Providence.

I was initially alerted while listening to the taped presentation of the rally ... I was unable to attend, though I would have gone had it been possible, and would have been put off from the experience within the first three minutes! I wonder if 500,000+ folks attending actually caught the incursion of mormonism in the first few minutes, or noticed the opening prayer being posed to 'gods'?

Watching the taped replay these are much more obvious. And if one doubts that 'gods' were being offered up in the opening prayer, listen repeatedly to the last line ... 'one nation under gods'. This is not a speech defect in the man offering the prayer. He was purposely invoking ecumenism, perniciously as it were.

Truly, this is a battle between principalities and powers of the air AND Christ's own. How many of His Church will realize the deceits undergirding this call to 'ecumenical renewal'?

25 posted on 09/03/2010 6:49:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

The genesis of America was fraught with very similar issues. refugees and expatriots, common and lordly struggled with merging their faiths, or lack thereof in a common purpose.

The deists ( don’t hear much about them lately) were supposedly a significant part of the intellectual firepower of the Constitution’s design.

The flag of the USA and the Cross of Jesus are two distinct things. I was born in a country where they didn’t diverge much; I would like to think they won’t for a while, that we can kick this can down the road aways!

Bottom line is they will, on God’s time and we best be prepared.


33 posted on 09/03/2010 9:56:44 PM PDT by One Name
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To: MHGinTN
I surely noticed the opening prayer being posed to ‘gods’?
In fact I made a point to listen more carefully to see if indeed I had heard rightly...I did and was very concerned...who are the Gods they were calling on?...The Islam God...the LDS Gods....just who.

This was more than disturbing but I truly don't think many picked up on this...but it is apparent. Unfortunately when people get together in mass as this, the feel good element can override the actual words being spoken for most have already been geared up for a “great experience”.

43 posted on 09/04/2010 6:40:17 AM PDT by caww
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To: MHGinTN
One aspect of Beck's rally that continues to disturb me is the inclusion of an Islamic Imam in the Black Robed Brigade! If one knows whom were the original Black Robed Regiment, and is aware of Beck's own emphasis of their importance to the Christian principles reflected in the founders' documents which established this nation, then to include an Imam of Islam (which reveres taqiyya when dealing with what Islam calls infidels, and that's all who are not Islamic) in this Christian lookalike brigade is to at once sully the principle behind the original regiment!

I was very disappointed to learn that there was an imam present. Had the presence of an imam been disclosed prior to 8/28 (maybe it was and I missed it somehow, but I doubt that) I would not have attended. (This is the one aspect of Beck's whole movement that I can not understand -- why does he insist on being "PC" about islam when he doesn't appear to be in so many other areas? If he does not begin to speak truthfully about islam, I think that he will lose a LOT of followers.)

I wonder if 500,000+ folks attending actually caught the incursion of mormonism in the first few minutes, or noticed the opening prayer being posed to 'gods'?

My son asked me about that during that opening prayer, I told him that the guy must have a lisp or some other speech defect. Sadly I have since learned that that is not the case. Very disappointing.

98 posted on 09/04/2010 4:21:11 PM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: MHGinTN

WOW. I just watched the video and he said “Gods” repeatedly, after about 6:43. It is obvious since he has mentioned other plurals, and did the same long s-s-s-s-s sound. VERY ODD.


131 posted on 09/07/2010 8:09:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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