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I am sorry Glenn but I cannot join you
Reformation Theology ^ | Pastor John Samson

Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock

I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.

I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.

But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.

I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!

A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."

I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."

I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?

And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."

God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.

So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.


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To: colorcountry

What happens if Glenn says tomorrow he had left the Mormon church or worse yet the Mormon church excommunicates Beck because of his “new” beliefs?

Hard to believe you all have written his future in stone.


241 posted on 08/31/2010 9:27:33 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

My people parish for lack of knowledge.


242 posted on 08/31/2010 9:28:12 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: swheats
What you did was ask for a link and I gave it to you.

"“I would like you to post the links that Beck claims what he believes. From his own mouth."

243 posted on 08/31/2010 9:30:23 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Gamecock
A simple snob is someone who belittles the right of others to make their own choices because they beleive they know better.

This one is far more dangerous than your average snob....he insists that we all go our separate ways rather than fight for our rights as united people. People like this guy are destroying every ones religious freedom.

244 posted on 08/31/2010 9:33:16 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: swheats
What happens if Glenn says tomorrow he had left the Mormon church or worse yet the Mormon church excommunicates Beck because of his “new” beliefs?

That is what we are all praying for isn't it, that Glenn Beck return to Christianity?

245 posted on 08/31/2010 9:34:10 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

“but even here on FR threads you will see that many Mormons despise Evangelical Christians.”

Evangelicals are Christians. And LDS could believe the same garbage about Catholics that some Evangelicals believe about Catholics. On FR you will see that some Christians despise Catholics, and don’t consider them Christians, unlike LDS who don’t post that sort of garbage.

Freegards


246 posted on 08/31/2010 9:35:36 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Yea they’re both men. As far as like goes.

Girl seems we still don’t agree. Continue to post your scriptures but it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t know the relationship that Glenn has with his God and I don’t know either. Let me be clear. I like what happened Saturday and when I went on my knees to pray I wasn’t thinking about Glenn Beck and the God/god he prayed to. I was all about the God who has become personal to me.

We’re waiting to see fully what the president believes if he ever posts that BC on his forehead. His words not mine. Not sure what the connection is with BC and religion.


247 posted on 08/31/2010 9:39:25 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: SuziQ

All of those here who are so “esteemed” (or so they think) in the eyes Of God seek to be first, but will be last.

Matthew 19:30 But many will be Last who are First; and First who are Last.

Mark 10:31 But many who are First will be Last; and the Last First.”


248 posted on 08/31/2010 9:40:03 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Ransomed

As long as you understand that Mormons like Catholics because Catholics make easy converts and that Mormons do bashing of Christians here at FR also, they really do not like bible believing Protestants and Evangelicals.


250 posted on 08/31/2010 9:43:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: antceecee

I’m crazy for believing the Bible????


251 posted on 08/31/2010 9:43:39 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: ansel12

Yes you did. You get an A for following directions. Girl seemed to not be able to get her done.

Are y’all working together? Imagine if we could get paid for posting our thoughts on the internet. What a job.


252 posted on 08/31/2010 9:45:02 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: antceecee; SuziQ

Wouldn’t it more appropriate to lecture the Christians with holy scripture from the Book of Mormon?


253 posted on 08/31/2010 9:45:43 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: swheats
Continue to post your scriptures but it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t know the relationship that Glenn has with his God

Any relationship that a man claims to have with the brother of Satan is just perverted.

254 posted on 08/31/2010 9:45:58 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Ransomed

Actually the Baptists were kids we played with and they were only spouting their Sunday school hyperbole. We all played together and got along just fine... funny how the adult religion lessons tended to interfere with us all getting along. I truly don’t believe that is anything at all to do with God’s will.


255 posted on 08/31/2010 9:46:32 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
You don't think the USA was better off back then?

Probably 2/3 of the pop. today have never heard Billy Graham preach...and I can't prove that's why the country is going to Hell in a hand basket, but you can't prove otherwise.

256 posted on 08/31/2010 9:46:36 PM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: goat granny

Glen believes that his god is the brother of Lucifer. That’s his status before God. And it’s perverted.


257 posted on 08/31/2010 9:47:21 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: ansel12

Seems to me that is the fault of the individual Catholic.


258 posted on 08/31/2010 9:47:57 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
All of those here who are so “esteemed” (or so they think) in the eyes Of God seek to be first, but will be last.

The ones I am worried about are the ones who worship a false god and call him Lucifer's brother.

259 posted on 08/31/2010 9:48:47 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Gamecock

I get the feeling that deep down in his heart, Glenn is more Christian than Mormon. That’s my impression.


260 posted on 08/31/2010 9:48:58 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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