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To: RnMomof7; kosta50; Kolokotronis; Natural Law; MarkBsnr

“”Teresa was a “mystic” we could in some ways compare her to the eastern mystics of her time and now..””

You fail to understand the difference between authentic Christian gifts from Christ and something gnostic

Here is an article From Orthodox Patristic Theology.
Human Nous-Noetic Prayer
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/phronema/patristic-theology-romanides-chapter-1-what-is-the-human-nous.aspx

Here are a few excerpts..

. What St. Paul calls the nous is the same as what the Fathers call dianoia. When the Apostle Paul says, I will pray with the spirit,[1] he means what the Fathers mean when they say, I will pray with the nous. And when he says, I will pray with the nous, he means I will pray with the intellect (dianoia). When the Fathers use the word nous, the Apostle Paul uses the word spirit. When he says I will pray with the nous, I will pray with the spirit or when he says I will chant with the nous, I will chant with the spirit, and when he says the Spirit of God bears witness to our spirit,[2] he uses the word spirit to mean what the Fathers refer to as the nous. And by the word nous, he means the intellect or reason.

In his phrase, the Spirit of God bears witness to our spirit, St. Paul speaks about two spirits: the Spirit of God and the human spirit. By some strange turn of events, what St. Paul meant by the human spirit later reappeared during the time of St. Makarios the Egyptian with the name nous, and only the words logos and dianoia continued to refer to mans rational ability. This is how the nous came to be identified with spirit, that is, with the heart, since according to St. Paul, the heart is the place of mans spirit.[3]

Those who have noetic prayer in their hearts do, however, communicate with one another. In other words, they have the ability to sit together, and communicate with each other noetically, without speaking. That is, they are able to communicate spiritually. Of course, this also occurs even when such people are far apart. They also have the gifts of clairvoyance and foreknowledge. Through clairvoyance, they can sense both other peoples sins and thoughts (logismoi), while foreknowledge enables them to see and talk about subjects, deeds, and events in the future. Such charismatic people really do exist. If you go to them for confession, they know everything that you have done in your life before you open your mouth to tell them.


7,760 posted on 09/30/2010 6:26:03 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
You fail to understand the difference between authentic Christian gifts from Christ and something gnostic

What I do understand is that catholics have more faith in Mystic visions than they do in the scriptures.. which is how the deception entered

Those who have noetic prayer in their hearts do, however, communicate with one another. In other words, they have the ability to sit together, and communicate with each other noetically, without speaking. That is, they are able to communicate spiritually. Of course, this also occurs even when such people are far apart. They also have the gifts of clairvoyance and foreknowledge. Through clairvoyance, they can sense both other peoples sins and thoughts (logismoi), while foreknowledge enables them to see and talk about subjects, deeds, and events in the future. Such charismatic people really do exist. If you go to them for confession, they know everything that you have done in your life before you open your mouth to tell them.

Satan can and does all these things.. they all add up to witchcraft ...

7,784 posted on 09/30/2010 9:29:29 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: stfassisi

Excellent find, SFA.


7,791 posted on 09/30/2010 9:50:25 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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