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To: stfassisi
You fail to understand the difference between authentic Christian gifts from Christ and something gnostic

What I do understand is that catholics have more faith in Mystic visions than they do in the scriptures.. which is how the deception entered

Those who have noetic prayer in their hearts do, however, communicate with one another. In other words, they have the ability to sit together, and communicate with each other noetically, without speaking. That is, they are able to communicate spiritually. Of course, this also occurs even when such people are far apart. They also have the gifts of clairvoyance and foreknowledge. Through clairvoyance, they can sense both other peoples sins and thoughts (logismoi), while foreknowledge enables them to see and talk about subjects, deeds, and events in the future. Such charismatic people really do exist. If you go to them for confession, they know everything that you have done in your life before you open your mouth to tell them.

Satan can and does all these things.. they all add up to witchcraft ...

7,784 posted on 09/30/2010 9:29:29 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; kosta50; Kolokotronis; Natural Law; MarkBsnr
STF-Those who have noetic prayer in their hearts do, however, communicate with one another. In other words, they have the ability to sit together, and communicate with each other noetically, without speaking. That is, they are able to communicate spiritually. Of course, this also occurs even when such people are far apart. They also have the gifts of clairvoyance and foreknowledge. Through clairvoyance, they can sense both other peoples sins and thoughts (logismoi), while foreknowledge enables them to see and talk about subjects, deeds, and events in the future. Such charismatic people really do exist. If you go to them for confession, they know everything that you have done in your life before you open your mouth to tell them.

RNmom7 -What I do understand is that catholics have more faith in Mystic visions than they do in the scriptures.. which is how the deception entered ...and....Satan can and does all these things.. they all add up to witchcraft

According to your analogy Saint John of Patmos must have been practicing witchcraft and the book of Revelation does not belong than

You fail to understand the difference between Christian Mystics and Gnostic mystics once again.

The Christian Mystics Saint Maximus the Confessor,Saint Macarios Saint Padre Pio, Saint Avila etc...all received these spiritual gifts from Christ and all of them gave credit to Christ for these gifts

These magnificent Saints knew the power of prayer and you are making a mistake in calling it witchcraft

From the words of Saint Maximus The Confessor...

“All the virtues co-operate with the intellect to produce this intense longing for God, pure prayer above all. For by soaring towards God through this prayer the intellect rises above the realism of created beings.”

7,941 posted on 09/30/2010 4:26:33 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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