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To: kosta50
It is sad when people that claim the title "christian" do not understand the trinity and sound like modalists

The Father IS NOT THE SON , The Son IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , the Holy Spirit is NOT THE FATHER..

There are THREE PERSONS in one God.. and there has been from all eternity

The members of the Trinity are called persons because a person is self aware, can speak, love, hate, say "you," "yours," "me," "mine," etc. Each of the three persons in the Trinity demonstrate these qualities.(Matt Slick)

Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son , the Son does the will of the Father. The relationship of the persons of the Trinity does not deny the deity of the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit . We do not understand the Trinity and we are not free to make it up as we go along . We have to search the scriptures to understand God . Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.

Each member of the Trinity has His own Function within the Godhead . The Father is caused the Universe ..see 1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); He causes divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); He initiates salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). This is the work of the Father

The Son is the the one through whom the Father worked creation and maintaing of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father has the Son preform all these works as His agent

The Holy Spirit does the work of the father as well creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). The Father does all these things through the Spirits Powet The first covenant was between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

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7,551 posted on 09/29/2010 10:58:32 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
There are THREE PERSONS in one God.. and there has been from all eternity"

Your problem is in your word choice. There are not three persons, there are three hypostases. This is akin to describing the three aspects of time; past, present, and future, or the three dimensions of an object. Each are unique, but wholly a part of the Ousia.

7,558 posted on 09/29/2010 11:28:12 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7

“I and the Father are One. Whoever has seen Me has seen the Father.”

Hmmmm...whom to believe? RnMomof7, an anonymous anti-Catolic poster, or Jesus Christ in His own words?

Decisions, decisions.


7,570 posted on 09/29/2010 12:11:18 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; Natural Law; Judith Anne
It is sad when people that claim the title "christian" do not understand the trinity and sound like modalists

I agree. That's exactly how the Protestants sound.

The Father has the Son preform all these works as His agent...The Father does all these things through the Spirits Powet The first covenant was between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

This is nothing short of heresy.

7,702 posted on 09/29/2010 7:21:25 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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