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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Judith Anne

**Isn’t it stunning that Roman Catholics believe they must suffer self-inflicted pain in order to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit?**

I will pray for you since it appears that you do not fast from food or other vices — even during Lent.

Do you ever go to an Ash Wednesday Mass and then wear the ashes on your forehead for the remainder of the day? It is a sign of self-moritification. I have been teased unmercifully by classmates because I had the ashes in the form of a Cross on my forehead.


6,896 posted on 09/24/2010 9:54:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
"Ashes on the forehead" is not self-denial but self-glorification. The soot says "Look how pious I am."

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." -- Matthew 6:5-8


6,902 posted on 09/24/2010 10:17:25 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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