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To: kosta50; D-fendr; maryz; bkaycee
Why is it your fault since you deny free will?

When I follow the Lord's will, I'm find. When I follow my will I fail, but the Lord will guide me back to the right path. There is no "free will". There is only the Lord's will and my will.

6,290 posted on 09/19/2010 4:52:17 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; D-fendr; maryz; bkaycee; MarkBsnr
When I follow the Lord's will, I'm find. When I follow my will I fail, but the Lord will guide me back to the right path. There is no "free will". There is only the Lord's will and my will

Sounds to me like you are following only your will in either case and then decide "whose" will you were following based on the outcome.

And how will the Lord guide you back to the right path? Will he force you against your will, and if so, whey does he let you stray to begin with?

6,306 posted on 09/19/2010 6:07:43 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: HarleyD; kosta50; maryz; bkaycee
Thanks for your post:

When I follow the Lord's will, I'm fine. When I follow my will I fail, but the Lord will guide me back to the right path.

I swear, Harley, when I discuss free will with you, I feel like I'm watching a man walking around claiming he is lame.

6,316 posted on 09/19/2010 7:35:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HarleyD; kosta50
Why is it your fault since you deny free will?
When I follow the Lord's will, I'm find. When I follow my will I fail,

I think the question is one of how can there be sin without free will? The only world views I know of that deny free will are Calvinism and modern materialistic determinism; in the latter, of course, the concept of sin does not exist.

6,347 posted on 09/20/2010 2:21:10 AM PDT by maryz
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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; metmom; RnMomof7
When I follow the Lord's will, I'm find. When I follow my will I fail, but the Lord will guide me back to the right path. There is no "free will". There is only the Lord's will and my will.

you know that is a very good point HD. Jesus had no free will, He came to do the Father's will. And he said, whoever does the will of my Father, is my brother, sister, etc. A Christian should be proud to acknowledge that they have no 'free will"

6,546 posted on 09/20/2010 10:53:32 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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