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To: RnMomof7
While your cut and paste is impressive, is there a point I'm supposed to take away from it?

To work out ones salvation is pretty easy to understand. To endure to the end and thus be saved seems pretty clear and reflects Paul's comments at Heb. 10:36 and elsewhere that salvation could be gained and lost.

Witness the Israelites that were saved by crossing the Red Sea and yet became condemned to die in the wilderness.

As I said, examples abound.

6,039 posted on 09/18/2010 2:15:49 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; RnMomof7
To endure to the end and thus be saved s

If we endure to the end we show we are saved.

Once God has forgiven our sins, He remembers them no more. (Hebrews 10.)

"I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake." -- 1 John 2:12


"Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." -- Romans 4:6-8

Our sins are not forgiven because we stop sinning. We sin every day. Our sins are forgiven because Christ has paid for every one of them and God remembers them no more.

So therefore Christians should not think they are spending their time trying to earn heaven, but instead they "work to show themselves approved." They work to illustrate the miracle of God's grace already within them. The good fruit comes from God who made men to differ.

6,048 posted on 09/18/2010 2:34:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: count-your-change
To work out ones salvation is pretty easy to understand. To endure to the end and thus be saved seems pretty clear and reflects Paul's comments at Heb. 10:36 and elsewhere that salvation could be gained and lost.

Did he say to work TO BE SAVED?No He did not..this letter was written to the saved.. it was instruction on HOW TO WALK out their salvation not how to be saved

What did Paul tell them about their walk?

Phl 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

Scripture interprets itself with its constancy

Hbr 13:20 ¶ Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Hbr 13:21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom [be] glory for ever and ever.

2Cr 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency [is] of God;

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

It is God that works in us to do HIS will ...and that is the reassurance that Paul was giving the saved church.. we humans may be fearful and tremble if we are left to ourselves..but fear not as it is God that works His will in you

It is so sad that Cathoics look at the word of God as a paste and copy job instead of reading what it really says

I think you meant Heb 10:26 not 36

Now really read this in the context of the message to the Hebrews

Hbr 10:26 ¶ For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

This is a passage that Catholics really need to rake to heart..

It is a warning to members of the church, not become apostate and try to return to the jewish practices because the last sacrifice for sin, the one that FULFILLED the type was Jesus Christ.. there could be no more temple sacrifices for their sin as the final sacrifice had been offered..

Please remember that as one view "the sacrifice of the mass"

There are no more sacrifices that are pleasing to God

6,050 posted on 09/18/2010 2:36:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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