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To: Mr Rogers
Odd - most Calvinists say we are saved by grace thru election

This is why a great many posters refuse to post to you. You make statements about them which are clearly untrue.

5,294 posted on 09/15/2010 5:10:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

So...what do YOU say we do to be saved?

Calvinist say NOTHING. Either one is elect, and will be irresistibly saved, or not, in which case you will never repent.

“Unconditional Election
God’s choice of certain individuals unto salvation before the foundation of the world rested solely in His own sovereign will. His choice of particular sinners was not based on any foreseen response or obedience on their part, such as faith, repentance, etc. On the contrary, God gives faith and repentance to each individual whom He selected. These acts are the result, not the cause of God’s choice. Election therefore was not determined by or conditioned upon any virtuous quality or act foreseen in man. Those whom God sovereignly elected He brings through the power of the Spirit to a willing acceptance of Christ. Thus God’s choice of the sinner, not the sinner’s choice of Christ, is the ultimate cause of salvation.”

http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/Calvinism/The-Five-Points-of-Calvinism/

That paragraph can be summed up as “By Grace, Thru Election”. God chooses to save you, or not, and “His choice of particular sinners was not based on any foreseen response or obedience on their part, such as faith, repentance, etc.”


5,303 posted on 09/15/2010 5:16:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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