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To: stfassisi
Catholic's believe the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit through the magisteriun.....Those outside the Church read the Bible and decide what teachings of Christ fits their own agenda.

Wrong on both accounts and condemned already.

EVERY believer ONLY has access to faith through God. Not another mediator except Jesus Christ. Any human who adheres to a doctrine OTHER than directly from God, falls into the same category of picking and choosing independent of God.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. The spiritual gift of Pastor-Teacher is a spiritual communication gift for some believers to communicate with others.

It is possible for a body of believers with such a gift to organize and group together doctrines through faith in Christ and provide them, communicate them to other believers as sound doctrine. It is possible for a RCC to perform this task.

It is also possible for any believer to remain in fellowship with God through faith alone in Christ alone and God the Holy Spirit perform that very same work within the believer. The believer is to respond to the Holy Spirit by the protocols God has provided.

If the believer instead picks and chooses by their own agenda, even if they are Roman Catholic obeying the letter of the magisteriun, they have already fallen out of fellowship with God and are following their own volition vice that of the Lord.

5,082 posted on 09/15/2010 10:33:26 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
EVERY believer ONLY has access to faith through God.

We agree except for the ONLY part,because there are some Invincibly Ignorant who may have never heard the Gospel or even have Christ spoke about to them. The Law of love is written on our hearts and Christ sends His Spirit to those whom He will. Christ said that NO ONE can do good without ME. NO ONE. Thus, when you see even a non Christian do good and love others unconditionally, what's the explanation? God's Spirit is working through the natural law written on that person's heart. He can be saved through Christ, even though He doesn't know that Jesus rose from the dead.Now,I believe this is unusual,but we don't tell God where to send His Spirit.

Any human who adheres to a doctrine OTHER than directly from God, falls into the same category of picking and choosing independent of God.

2 for 2 we agree again!you're on a roll. I will expand on this as well,dear friend.... The Doctrine of Trinity , The Sacraments etc.. all come from God to His Church

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. The spiritual gift of Pastor-Teacher is a spiritual communication gift for some believers to communicate with others.

Some people hear the word of God and interpret it to mean different things on the same Scripture and sometimes they are completely opposite of historical consistent beliefs. Someone is right and someone is wrong ,so their can only be one truth. I take the side of historical consistency of the Magisterium and Consensus patrum.You're free to do whatever you want

It is also possible for any believer to remain in fellowship with God through faith alone in Christ alone and God the Holy Spirit perform that very same work within the believer. The believer is to respond to the Holy Spirit by the protocols God has provided.

We agree again!

If the believer instead picks and chooses by their own agenda, even if they are Roman Catholic obeying the letter of the magisteriun, they have already fallen out of fellowship with God and are following their own volition vice that of the Lord.

A Catholic is bound to dogmatic teaching of Faith and Morals of the Church since we believe they come to us from Christ.If a Catholic knows these teachings and acts or teach against them they are essentially calling Christ a lier and following there own pride

I enjoyed your well thought out post.

I wish you a Blessed evening!

5,282 posted on 09/15/2010 4:48:32 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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