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To: metmom
This is a pretty tall order. It took me about 2 hours. Below are relevant things I found on my way to finding your denial that the Catholic Church permits married priests. But here are the relevant data. HERE is an interesting exchange:
Me:I don't care how you slice it. Saying that the Catholic Church forbids married priests is not saying the truth.
You: Since when? Or is that only reserved for the popes?
I find at 4066 of this thread That when I said:
- You said the Catholic Church does not allow married priests. False.
You responded:
Fine, then we can look for an upswing in married priests.

Here you seem to say that you did make that statement or one like it.

I passed lots of posts where you commented on the failure of the Sacred Body to look like anything but a wafer.

At post 2933 of this thread I find:
Why doesn't [present tense - emphasis added] the Catholic church serve BOTH elements of communion to its adherents as Christ did with His disciples and commanded us to take both the bread and the cup?

Here's what may be a claim to authority:
You do know, don’t you, that many of us were RAISED Catholic? You know, baptized, First Communion, confirmation, confession, catechism classes, Catholic family, Catholic classmates, Catholic co-workers?

Oh another good one:
God is NOT limited? Just sacrificed each and every mass in a liturgy so rigidly adhered to that I could still go in a mass decades later and recite along with it.
WHEN did you quite going to Mass?

And, here's a claim
being raised Catholic I DO know what I’m talking about.

Oh, and Here's/a> where you said something untrue:
Not one Catholic has even tried to answer that question yet. They all just keep ignoring it.

Here you seem to say you don't know what goes on in the Masses of the year:
I wonder if they ever read the Beatitudes in that church.
(As someone who knows ALL about the Catholic Church knows, they are read on All Saints Day.)

And here's you say you know better:
Bears repeating, and we ex-Catholics do know better. We know what the Catholic church teaches because we were raised and catechized in it. We know what other Catholics that we worked with, went to school with, had communion parties, confirmation parties, marriages, and funerals with believed because we talked about it. Some of us even have family members who were in the Catholic clergy and really KNOW what the Catholic church teaches.

And Here:
We *ex's* know perfectly well why we left and it IS because we "really" understood Catholic doctrine.

5,066 posted on 09/15/2010 10:08:36 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: metmom; Mad Dawg

Well, in case you missed it, MD’s post 5066 will serve to answer your demand of me as well.

No poster is here at another’s beck and call. A statement that a poster MUST look up proof or concede the argument is completely without merit. Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

Nor does any poster get to define the nature of the proof for another, and demand that it be produced or concede the argument.

Such behavior is manipulative, and assumes a mantle of phony authority.

m’kay?


5,096 posted on 09/15/2010 10:57:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Mad Dawg; metmom
May I suggest
that horse is dead.

5,143 posted on 09/15/2010 12:38:51 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Mad Dawg

Just got back from shopping and have a lot of cooking to do.

I Just wanted to let you know I saw the post and will get back to it later.


5,154 posted on 09/15/2010 12:58:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Legatus; RnMomof7
mm: Since when? Or is that only reserved for the popes?

Inherent in the question is the recognition that there was marriage permitted, otherwise I wouldn't have known that there had been married popes.

I can see how it looked like I thought that the Catholic church never permitted married priests. I do know that the Catholic church does not allow priests to marry, which you have verified. I was not aware of the Anglican thing going on.

As far as offering both elements of communion, again, when I was last regularly attending the Catholic church, they weren't. I wasn't wrong based on the knowledge I had. It was correct for the time, so no accusation of being poorly catechized can be made. One cannot be poorly catechized if one is not part of the church.

When did I quit going to the Catholic church? Answered somewhere else but likely you missed it so I won't make you hunt that one down. Back in the late 70's and then sporadically over the years for funerals and weddings.

And again, checking whether the cup was offered at communion, if they even offered it for that matter, at either of my parents funerals wasn't on my mind at the time. I just was not in the state of mind to notice or care.

Bears repeating, and we ex-Catholics do know better. We know what the Catholic church teaches because we were raised and catechized in it. We know what other Catholics that we worked with, went to school with, had communion parties, confirmation parties, marriages, and funerals with believed because we talked about it. Some of us even have family members who were in the Catholic clergy and really KNOW what the Catholic church teaches.

This gets back to what the Catholic church at the local level teaches and what you guys claim is *official* Catholic doctrine as defined by Rome.

I DO know what I was taught and what all the other Catholics I grew up with believed. I do know what my Catholic priest relatives said. Other former Catholics on these thread have verified that they were taught and believed the same things. The same *errors* are being widely taught apparently. You guys have bigger problems than us former Catholics in that case. There is a real lack of communication from the top down. But that has been verified in an earlier post by a fellow Catholic.

I was catechized as well as the rest of the Catholics in my sphere, and not many of them left the Catholic church. My leaving it had nothing to do with the quality of the catechism. I would not have stayed if I had been catechized better. Others didn't who were.

Hey, I appreciate the time and effort you put into accommodating that request. I also looked for some of those comment myself and didn't find them. Either I missed them or you have a better search ability that I. I am someone computer challenged since I do it recreationally and not for a living.

Got the Lemon Chicken done. Time to work on the carrot cake. I sure wish I could eat that stuff....

:(

5,263 posted on 09/15/2010 4:17:50 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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