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mm: Since when? Or is that only reserved for the popes?

Inherent in the question is the recognition that there was marriage permitted, otherwise I wouldn't have known that there had been married popes.

I can see how it looked like I thought that the Catholic church never permitted married priests. I do know that the Catholic church does not allow priests to marry, which you have verified. I was not aware of the Anglican thing going on.

As far as offering both elements of communion, again, when I was last regularly attending the Catholic church, they weren't. I wasn't wrong based on the knowledge I had. It was correct for the time, so no accusation of being poorly catechized can be made. One cannot be poorly catechized if one is not part of the church.

When did I quit going to the Catholic church? Answered somewhere else but likely you missed it so I won't make you hunt that one down. Back in the late 70's and then sporadically over the years for funerals and weddings.

And again, checking whether the cup was offered at communion, if they even offered it for that matter, at either of my parents funerals wasn't on my mind at the time. I just was not in the state of mind to notice or care.

Bears repeating, and we ex-Catholics do know better. We know what the Catholic church teaches because we were raised and catechized in it. We know what other Catholics that we worked with, went to school with, had communion parties, confirmation parties, marriages, and funerals with believed because we talked about it. Some of us even have family members who were in the Catholic clergy and really KNOW what the Catholic church teaches.

This gets back to what the Catholic church at the local level teaches and what you guys claim is *official* Catholic doctrine as defined by Rome.

I DO know what I was taught and what all the other Catholics I grew up with believed. I do know what my Catholic priest relatives said. Other former Catholics on these thread have verified that they were taught and believed the same things. The same *errors* are being widely taught apparently. You guys have bigger problems than us former Catholics in that case. There is a real lack of communication from the top down. But that has been verified in an earlier post by a fellow Catholic.

I was catechized as well as the rest of the Catholics in my sphere, and not many of them left the Catholic church. My leaving it had nothing to do with the quality of the catechism. I would not have stayed if I had been catechized better. Others didn't who were.

Hey, I appreciate the time and effort you put into accommodating that request. I also looked for some of those comment myself and didn't find them. Either I missed them or you have a better search ability that I. I am someone computer challenged since I do it recreationally and not for a living.

Got the Lemon Chicken done. Time to work on the carrot cake. I sure wish I could eat that stuff....