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To: D-fendr
I believe “Are you saved?” under Calvinist predestination reduces to “Were you born lucky?”.

You would be wrong since "luck" doesn't exist.

Do you believe in luck?

15,468 posted on 11/03/2010 9:32:14 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You would be wrong since "luck" doesn't exist.

To those created for hell or heaven, it darn sure looks like luck, coming out of nowhere for no possibly discernible reason or cause - in the womb. To them, it's a roll of the dice - heaven or hell. If that's not luck, it's as close as you can get.

The theology is clear: Completely at the whim, er, pleasure, of a wrathful god. It's a step back to a pagan god.

15,470 posted on 11/03/2010 9:36:49 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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