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To: kosta50; editor-surveyor; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; Dutchboy88; boatbums; metmom; caww
The point, which you apparently missed, is that Paul says one thing and Dr. E's Calvinist doctrine another. Paul says the sanctification is already an accomplished fact (grammatically expressed as such), not something you undergo throughout your life.

I do not expect you to understand this but...

1 Corinthians 1:2, "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy…

Here Paul is describing there is a relationship between positional sanctification and progressive sanctification,

The Greek root of the word sanctified and holy is the same word.. We are seen by God as holy and called to be holy

Through Christ we are positionally Holy, seen as being Holy in Christ..We are called to live out in our lives (progressively, what we already are positionally)

I am seen as holy by God, but it is not MY holiness that God sees, it is Christ.. The work of God in me leads me to grow in personal holiness as I live out the Christian life..

15,387 posted on 11/01/2010 1:52:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: RnMomof7; editor-surveyor; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; Dutchboy88; boatbums; metmom; caww; ...
I do not expect you to understand this but...

I do understand what you are trying to say, but I can't agree with you because that's not what the Greek text says. The idea of "positional" and "progressive" sanctification is a doctrinal rationalization, no odubt, but not in the spirit of the Greek in which it was written.

Paul says says no such thing.

Reading it in Greek, it is clear to me that there is no "progressive" anything in what he is saying. What he is saying is simply that those who have been made holy (i.e. sanctified) are called holy, not that they are called to be holy.

After all, what else can holy be but holy?

15,392 posted on 11/01/2010 4:38:10 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: RnMomof7
1 Corinthians 1:2, "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy…

Here Paul is describing there is a relationship between positional sanctification and progressive sanctification,

The Greek root of the word sanctified and holy is the same word.. We are seen by God as holy and called to be holy

Through Christ we are positionally Holy, seen as being Holy in Christ. We are called to live out in our lives (progressively, what we already are positionally)

I am seen as holy by God, but it is not MY holiness that God sees, it is Christ.. The work of God in me leads me to grow in personal holiness as I live out the Christian life..

AMEN, RnMom! Great Scriptural teaching on this thread.

We are saved by Christ's righteousness freely imputed to us by our merciful God who loved us before we loved Him.

15,418 posted on 11/01/2010 9:20:16 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RnMomof7
Here Paul is describing there is a relationship between positional sanctification and progressive sanctification. The Greek root of the word sanctified and holy is the same word.. We are seen by God as holy and called to be holy

That's a great explanation, RnMom. Thanks much.

15,480 posted on 11/03/2010 10:13:37 AM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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