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To: RnMomof7
Here Paul is describing there is a relationship between positional sanctification and progressive sanctification. The Greek root of the word sanctified and holy is the same word.. We are seen by God as holy and called to be holy

That's a great explanation, RnMom. Thanks much.

15,480 posted on 11/03/2010 10:13:37 AM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper; RnMomof7
FK, the Greek text says no such thing as I demonstrated in the followup to Mom's post. Holy (or sanctified) is a state of being. That which is holy/sanctified is that ontologically, and can only be that while it's holy. That which is holy doesn't need to be called to holiness.

The call to holiness is nonsensical if we consider how holiness is attained: it is a passive change of ontological state without our participation. It is something that occurred without our volition or doing.

This is made abundantly clear in the grammatical format of the Greek text (perfect, passive, subjunctive—an accomplished fact without our participation or volition, such as for example you were born).

So, how can we then be called "to be holy" if holiness is not works-based or subject to free-will? It's like calling all those who were born to stay born! It's nonsense. Greek text doesn't say anything like that.

It is untenable logically. If we can make ourselves holy, then the whole Calvinist and Protestant illusion of being the elect falls down like a house of cards and becomes a Pelagian heresy.

15,486 posted on 11/03/2010 10:42:26 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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